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| garybee wrote: | [Post subject: Chain oiling tool]
I designed and made this a week or so ago, just tried it out today. It directs chain lube from a single inlet, via an internal manifold, to the areas on a chain which require lube. This one is sized for a 525 chain but it would of course be easy to make them to suit any chain size.
I'm going to alter the design to put the inlet on the side which will allow it to fit into the gap between the swingarm and the chain more easily. I think it would also be easier to use if the arm were longer.
I'm interested in any constructive criticism from people on here. Obviously this is just a prototype so if you can see a way it could be easily improved I'd appreciate your input. Would anyone be interested in a tool like this?
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| Posted: 22:34 - 25 Mar 2018 Post subject: |
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Nice and neat. I've seen similar devices, like this.
I don't use aerosols anymore though, they're too messy. I prefer to turn the wheel and apply gear oil to the lower chain run using a 1/2" paint brush. Wipe the excess off with a rag and job done.
I bought a Scotoiler once but I thought cable-ties down the swingarm would look like a temporary bodge so I sold it on eBay. Directing oil to the front sprocket would be much neater, but more difficult. It's possible though, according to Scotoiler: https://www.scottoiler.com/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,/gid,678/task,doc_download/
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DaFuk?
Was that a Flounce? 
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| MCN wrote: | DaFuk?
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I thinks, so... pitty... took me back to my days when I evaluated gizmo's like this for a living, and flogged the ones that actually worked..... almost looking forwards to critiquing it.... But.....
I was still trying to work out whether,
a) it was supposed to be a 'tool' kept in the shed and lost until you want it dragged out when you come to oil the chain
b) was an 'accessory' strapped to the bike, to oil the chain when riding;
c) who/what presses the aerosol button, in either case... and
d) WHO, if strapped the the swing arm, is fool enough to stick their fingers that close to a blunt chain-saw blade in motion when riding!?!?!?!
e) what 'problem' exactly this wiget was trying to 'solve'?
f) why, since sealed ring chains have alleviated a heck of a lot of the criticality of chain-lube; on the rollers lubed-for-life, you only need the tiniest bit, of lube on the rollers/sprocket teeth during the rollers take-up, after which there's no movement between the two, hence no-need for lube, and the most significant bit of chucking loads of oil at a chain is to get road-grit to stick to it and act like grinding past to wear out the rollers/sprockets faster..... ANY gizmo or indeed aerosol, is in fact needed?
Last O-Ring chain I had to chuck away was NOT because the rollers/pins were worn out... well they were, but only because the ruddy rings had perished and the pins/rollers had lost their factory fitted grease.. and perished rings stopped aerosol lube getting in to replace it!
Makes me wonder, with a large amount of solvent in the can to make the grease thin enough to spray from an aerosol, just how much, or more likely LITTLE, lube an O-Ring chain really needs, and how much more harm than good plan-in-a-can lubes may actually do for them..... the actual grease thinning solvent as likely to soak into and kill the rubber of the sealing rings as take grease where it may be useful.....
Of course, does not apply to unsealed chains.... and what, these days may still run one of them?
A low miles competition bike, or 'cheap' commuter hack... on low miles comper, old voodoo of hot dipping, or old gear oil soak, even soak and burn, to leave just thin coating of carbon as lube... work....chain life is not really an imperative.
On a high miles commuter, cost is the imperative, and buying cheap unsealed chains, that may need more asidiouse lube regimes, probably doesn't actually work out so 'cheap' long term compared to buying more epensive sealed-ring chain in the first place.
May be some cross-over in the Learner-Legal arena, where you dont want the extra 'drag' from a sealed ring chain robbing what little power they may have, rather like a comper; as well as high miles, low-cost and low maintenence.. but still not all that ardiouse to take chain off from time to time; wash and dip, and replace, to get max miles from a cheaper unsealed chain.
Interesting case study for design 101, perhaps.... product-push vs product-pull.. Necessity is the mother of invention, vs ideas that result in gadgets, folk have to be convinced they want more than they actually need..... rather like a motorbike to begin with actually, but how that came about still remains an incredibly perverse bit of legacy... I mean, IF you were starting out with a clean sheet of paper to design something as cheap personal transport...?.... would YOU give it just two wheels so left to its own devices it just falls over?!?!?!?
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