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PostPosted: 10:12 - 21 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
turns out that the DLR drivers cancelled their strike this weekend.


What a relief. I can get to Mudchute this weekend after all Very Happy

A DLR strike Rolling Eyes We couldn't have had a more ineffectual strike if the dead had decided to stop decomposing for a day Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 21 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Want to put money on that? I cycle a lot round London and the major cause of me coughing out my lungs are black cabs, not just old ones all of them. Buses are getting cleaner with a lot more hybrids, and seem to be maintained better.


The new taxi is a petrol hybrid. New diesel London taxis will not be made. The fleet will gradually switch over. I don't know how gradually - the new one costs a little more, but has lower running costs. Also depends on what sort of incentives TFL provide.

I would suspect that the oldest ones will be first to go - the new taxi has been on the way for quite a while, so some cabbies may have been holding off replacing their cabs until the new one comes along.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of what I think you're trying to say - it would be nice if TFL just banned all diesel taxis - that isn't going to happen. The taxi federation is a fairly powerful lobby group, and cabbies can't afford to just replace a very expensive car, or have the value of their current one massively undercut.

To put it in perspective, when this came along there were a lot of bikers being pissed off that this dropped the value of their 2005 bike from £2k to £1200. For a cabbie, they could be looking at the value of their car dropping from £30k to £20k. That's enough of a sting to make it worth protesting, and cabbies have the numbers and organisation to really bring London to a standstill.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, spent Saturday in London, must have missed MAG shutting down Central London, how careless of me!
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Step into this new London Taxi. Sit all over my produce young one ...
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
That's enough of a sting to make it worth protesting, and cabbies have the numbers and organisation to really bring London to a standstill.



...and they can do it on a weekday, because they're there anyway (and it means enough to them to lose some tax free cash for the day - none of this Saturday nonsense)
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having brought London to its knees, MAG shows magnanimity, and may not completely destroy the city if Sadiq Khan accedes to their common sense demands once he emerges from his Panic Bunker.


News from the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) wrote:

Riders call for common sense regarding crime and congestion

This version: 2018 04 24 Embargo: IMMEDIATE

London demo calls on Mayor Khan and Government to come to their senses about motorcycle-enabled crime and unfair pollution taxes.

The Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) held their biggest demonstration in years last Saturday to highlight the unfairness of a new pollution tax that London Mayor, Sadiq Khan, is threatening to introduce and which will hit some of the poorest workers in the capital. The demonstration, organised by MAG’s London Regional Representative, Tim Fawthrop, drew support from all elements of the riding community including dispatch riders, delivery riders, commuters and leisure bikers.

Selina Lavender, MAG’s Chair, said 'A big thank you to the MAG members who put in the hours to bring the demo together. It was great to see riders turn out in support of the event and I really enjoyed riding with you all. Hopefully Mr Khan will get the message!'

Keith Prince, Chair of the Greater London Authority Transport Committee and a motorcyclist himself, added his voice to the call for common sense: ‘I am disappointed that the Mayor of London has chosen to punish the most vulnerable with his ULEZ tax by again not keeping his promise to work with the motorcycling community. Ironically as a socialist, he is taxing the least well off; the low-paid essential workers and night workers who need their small-capacity bikes to get to work and cannot afford to replace them. Transport for London’s "Easy Rider" report of 2015 states "powered two wheelers are part of the solution." Why, two years later, are we now part of the problem?’

Other speakers included Peter Ramsbottom, London Deputy Regional Representative, who is equally disappointed by the actions of the Mayor: ‘We need to view motorcycles as a solution to the problem, and that’s what MAG has been campaigning for since these recent threats emerged.’

MAG’s President, Ian Mutch, summed up the campaigning commitment of MAG: ‘The Mayor really does need to think about motorcycling because he made many promises to us before being elected. Now we invite him to talk directly with MAG. Currently, his policies on motorcycling are counterproductive: they ignore the benefits that motorcycles of all kinds bring to the commuting mix.’

Colin Brown, MAG’s recently appointed Director of Campaigns & Political Engagement, said of the event ‘this was a peaceful, good natured demonstration but there is real anger amongst bikers who don’t understand how the Mayor can think it’s fair to charge riders of old mopeds £12.50 a day to enter the city, while someone with a six-litre sports car gets in for free, as far as the pollution tax is concerned, if it’s a new vehicle. We believe we have a strong legal case based on discrimination. We hope it doesn’t come to that but if the Mayor is willing to damage his own reputation to defend a tax on the poor, then MAG will take him on, all the way to court if necessary.’

Contact MAG at 01926 844 064 or central-office@mag-uk.org

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

News from the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) wrote:

The Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) held their biggest demonstration in years last Saturday


Did they hit double figures then?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzoid wrote:

Did they hit double figures then?


Only if you count Selina's mum's dog.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzoid wrote:
Did they hit double figures then?


Many cruisers, much foggitry.

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John Cleary wrote:
All that was achieved on Saturday was a spectacle and entertainment for the tourists
Who in their right mind would organise a protest on the same day as celebrations for the Queens Birthday and St George’s day commonwealth heads of state visits
We were given a route to ride through Hyde Park did anyone at MAG think to recce the route before hand no did they have printed maps for each rider no
A large ride out consists of keeping the group together as much as possible frequent stops so we could regroup
Red light marshalling so we keep the flow
MAG you need to up your game !!"]


Axe Man wrote:
What a fuckin joke this was no protest run more like a jolly jaunt around London And no one got separated people just had enough and turned back been a mag member for over 20 years never again I got 20 of my mates to go take time of work gave up there Saturday away from family and loosing a day to fight for a cause the believe in and they all feel let down big time sorry mag would not run a bath started of from ace no marshal knew what route we would take only 4 of them yes I take on board numbers was down buy did they not ask for volunteers there was plenty there to help I for one would as I ride into London 7 days a week so I know London a pure chaos with all riders as we approached junctions no one there to point us in right direction do we go straight on left or right that is when so many riders fucked off and I can prove that at junction s no marshals there as was wearing a head cam then our final destination in the middle of nowhere no press just a few mumbling words from a few pathetic individuals who call them self mag who are fighting for our rights and we support you by paying them our hard earned money I am more than happy to take a telephone call email or receive a written reply from mag regards this I am sure you can easily get my contact details my mag membership number is 120514 but I guess they will bury there heads in the sand probably a sell out a massive thanks to all the riders who took part and respect to all safe ridding

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PostPosted: 11:33 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Fizzoid wrote:
Did they hit double figures then?


Many cruisers, much foggitry.

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John Cleary wrote:
All that was achieved on Saturday was a spectacle and entertainment for the tourists
Who in their right mind would organise a protest on the same day as celebrations for the Queens Birthday and St George’s day commonwealth heads of state visits
We were given a route to ride through Hyde Park did anyone at MAG think to recce the route before hand no did they have printed maps for each rider no
A large ride out consists of keeping the group together as much as possible frequent stops so we could regroup
Red light marshalling so we keep the flow
MAG you need to up your game !!"]


Axe Man wrote:
What a fuckin joke this was no protest run more like a jolly jaunt around London And no one got separated people just had enough and turned back been a mag member for over 20 years never again I got 20 of my mates to go take time of work gave up there Saturday away from family and loosing a day to fight for a cause the believe in and they all feel let down big time sorry mag would not run a bath started of from ace no marshal knew what route we would take only 4 of them yes I take on board numbers was down buy did they not ask for volunteers there was plenty there to help I for one would as I ride into London 7 days a week so I know London a pure chaos with all riders as we approached junctions no one there to point us in right direction do we go straight on left or right that is when so many riders fucked off and I can prove that at junction s no marshals there as was wearing a head cam then our final destination in the middle of nowhere no press just a few mumbling words from a few pathetic individuals who call them self mag who are fighting for our rights and we support you by paying them our hard earned money I am more than happy to take a telephone call email or receive a written reply from mag regards this I am sure you can easily get my contact details my mag membership number is 120514 but I guess they will bury there heads in the sand probably a sell out a massive thanks to all the riders who took part and respect to all safe ridding


And some of us MAG types doth protesteth at the need for grammar and correct speeling.

FFS Axe Man! Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish we could get ridd of you.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I wish we could get ridd of you.


Touche.

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PostPosted: 18:35 - 26 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzoid wrote:
Well, spent Saturday in London, must have missed MAG shutting down Central London, how careless of me!


Me too.
Worked all afternoon right in and around the West End, no sign of any major disruption.

The most traffic-stopping thing I had to put up with all afternoon was going down Peter Street (very narrow alley off Wardour Street) to drop some French people off at Supreme so their children could queue up to buy a ridiculously-priced skater t-shirt. Rolling Eyes

Actually, the biggest queue I saw in London that day was for an artisan ice cream shop in Covent Garden. There must have been 50 people waiting out on the pavement to get in. Must go back there and try them on a less busy day to see what all the fuss is about Laughing
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