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do you want to kick Corbyn in the ballots and vote for somebody else in the local election? |
Yes voting Tory |
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66% |
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Yes voting Greens |
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0% |
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Yes voting Lib-dems |
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14% |
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Yes voting Renew |
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0% |
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No I love to suck Corbyn's ballots |
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19% |
[ 4 ] |
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MCN wrote: | You Brexit fuckers forget rapidly how close the vote was to leave/stay. |
And you're forgetting that it was meant to be a token referendum with leaving never really on the cards?
MCN wrote: | Who knows what is best? |
With that logic no one would ever vote.
MCN wrote: | No one in government knows. |
The governments position was that we should stay, remember the 9 million quid spent sending a leaflet to every house saying so?
MCN wrote: | No one on BCF knows. |
See point two.
MCN wrote: | For those who voted stay it is not the fear of the unknown but the chance we cut our noses off to spite our face. |
No it's fear of the unknown. It's like leaving a shit job or bad relationship without having worked out what you're going to do next. Most people still do it, unless you want to stay miserable.
And contrary to what kippyzona believes it wasn't a vote of hatred (for everyone), it a was a vote of caring where this country ends up, which for the majority of people is better off (long-term) outside the EU. |
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Liberals are the worst of the lot, not a political spine among them. Idealism to the nth degree. Worst of all is if you have a look at what it actually is, you'll find their ideals are so broad that clearly they just go with whatever is the flavour of the week at the time.
Quote: | Though all liberal doctrines possess a common heritage, scholars frequently assume that those doctrines contain "separate and often contradictory streams of thought" |
Worst to me is that they claim to be everything but Tory (or at least the common theme is that of 'Labour + Lib Dems' vs 'Tory Hegemony', but in truth they stand for the same things, or worse! Free society and free markets is pretty much their bottom line - laissez faire everything, because a hefty dose of "let the people do what they want" while 'natural forces' work their magic charm is all that's needed to keep things going smoothly, as if the invention of governance, rule and law was not ever for a the greater good of society. Total madness. At least right and left wing folk agree that some form of control is necessary, only with differing opinions on how the control should manifest itself. Liberals on the other hand assume society will carry on fine and dandy as long as competition and capitalism in its rawest form is allowed to happen unrestricted.
Quote: | as long as supply, demand, prices, and competition were left free of government regulation, the pursuit of material self-interest, rather than altruism, would maximise the wealth of a society through profit-driven production of goods and services. An "invisible hand" directed individuals and firms to work toward the nation's good as an unintended consequence of efforts to maximise their own gain. |
As if gang rule, oligarchy or extreme corporatism can be suddenly erased from the dictionary, or as if slavery and indentured servitude were never a thing in the far more liberal days of yesteryear.
I don't think Lib Dem voters really have any idea at all what they're voting for. |
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Can we please not use the L word, unless it's to refer to someone who actually believes in individual liberties, including the freedom to disagree with the Party Goodthink in thought, word and action.
Social progressives are not liberals. All forms of socialism are coercive collectivism, which is the antithesis of liberalism. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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You mean that antifa and Unite Against Fascism aren't liberal? |
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We?
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That must have been a slow count |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 352 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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