Keyless

[HappyDays]

Looks like a good idea, what's your thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq1F6fQWSdY
Not cheap, anyone done better with keyless?
better clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD6sQNxrz8
More..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1vdho1gihU&t=456s
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Liquorice Torpedoe

[Snod Blatter]

I have replaced the ignition lock on my K100 with a Chinese black box and button-blipper thing, I like it. The combination of alarm and no wires to snip off and tie together makes it difficult to steal.

I have accidentally had the "off" button get pressed from inside my pocket though, which of course immediately killed the whole bike. I now carefully place the blipper in the corner of the pocket, buttons facing away, and no problems since.
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1994 CB250, 1984 CBX250RS-E, 1989 K100RS, 1995 TRX850, 2016 Z250SL

[Rogerborg]

My thoughts are that it's spending money on another thing to go wrong.

As in, I have thought about it for the Enfield, but then I decided to follow stinkwheel's example and just leave the key in it overnight, which achieves much the same effect.
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[TheSmiler]

[EricBoss]

Great idea but I prefer something more analog. Something that I can manually override when required. I don't want to trust my mobility to a machine. The more mechanical the better. It's like having a financial app and giving someone else the password for it. Next thing you know someone else has access to all your data, invoices, receipts, etc and you're credit is screwed.

[Irn-Bru]

What happens if the battery dies, does it forget the fobs?
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KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM

[grr666]

[Snod Blatter]

[rpsmith79]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

[Londoner2015]

One thing that worries me is insurance. I'd be terrified of insurers overcharging if you declare this 'modification', and of them using it as a lousy excuse not to pay up should you ever need to claim.

[Freddyfruitba...]

[Londoner2015]

[Monkeypony]

My Sherco is keyless.

In addition, it has absolutely zero electronic security, no fob, no immobiliser.

You just press the button, and it starts

Guess how much fun it is to pull into a petrol station that doesn't have pay at pump!

Why the makers of Enduro bikes think this is a sensible way to do things in this day and age is beyond me!
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Current bike - 2018 H2-SX, 2004 SV1000s, 2016 Aprilia RSV4 RF, 2017 Sherco SERF 300, 2003 Suzuki DRZ400 (stolen - AY53 JUU)

[Rogerborg]

[Londoner2015]

If it gets stolen and then found (it happens), are you going to tell the insurer that the thieves fit a keyless ignition system?

As for a crash, my fear is that the insurer would most likely still try to claim that, had they known about the modification, they would have charged more, and therefore they should now pay up less. Or is this a legal impossibility? Genuine question, I'd be curious to know. Of course the "opinions" of not-legally-qualified fellow bikers, however interesting, are totally irrelevant.

[Rogerborg]

[Londoner2015]

If it's returned to them after they have paid me for it, they will inspect it, notice the modification, and the chance they'll use it against me is closer to 1 than it is to zero.

Also, a loss adjuster might not attend if the damage is the write off of a scooter worth no more than £1k, but if the collision involves tens of thousands of pounds of damages to other vehicles and/or injuries to people, yes, a loss adjuster is very likely to attend.

Oh, and no, I'm not a motorcycle courier - what makes you think I am?

Of course, horses for courses: I have explained why I'm afraid of insurers, you have explained why you're not, and everyone is free to do whatever they want...

[M.C]

The CCM Spitfire* has a keyless ignition (nice mainstream example). Henry Cole reckons you need to swipe the fob the turn the ignition off as well Can't say I see the point of it.

*sort of want

[Rogerborg]

[johnjones65]