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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 27 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
You can still wear your bike-show bought leathers and denies and synthetic gear.

For now.


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I do not think legislation that you must wear CE to ride a bike will happen for a long long time.

Probably not, and enforcement will be random. We may lose bikes altogether before it happens.

However, bear in mind that the DVSA already mandate gear in excess of what's required by law in order to do your bike tests.

Once the State gets a taste of power, it tends to chew down harder.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 27 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
MCN wrote:
You can still wear your bike-show bought leathers and denies and synthetic gear.

For now.


MCN wrote:
I do not think legislation that you must wear CE to ride a bike will happen for a long long time.

Probably not, and enforcement will be random. We may lose bikes altogether before it happens.

However, bear in mind that the DVSA already mandate gear in excess of what's required by law in order to do your bike tests.

Once the State gets a taste of power, it tends to chew down harder.


That is more than probably a arse covering ploy so testers and test centres don't get chased by law-thugs. When their client falls and rips his/her nylons.

Our client (not in europe) makes it the driver's responsibility to ensure all passengers wear a seatbelt.

😂

They don't want the hassle of injury claims coz some edjit went through a window or injured another person when they became a projectile.
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PostPosted: 04:58 - 28 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

No CE.

https://imgur.com/gallery/2Bidyhb
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 28 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
[DVSA] is more than probably a arse covering ploy so testers and test centres don't get chased by law-thugs. When their client falls and rips his/her nylons.

It's a pretty spacktarded ploy then, since they're creating a duty of care when none existed, and making themselves liable by declaring that (e.g.) fashion jeans are suitable PPE.

Time until they mandate full CE gear for tests, and start looking down candidates' underpants? I mean, now they can say "You must wear motorcycle specific clothing, and all motorcycle specific clothing must be CE, therefore..."
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on a snippet of conversation I overheard while in J&S today: "... The new [jacket] will have different stitching."

So, from what I gather, more stitches means garment holds together under testing longer and therefore reaches a timestamp satisfactory to CE standards (level 1)?
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why were they talking in the future tense about something that should have happened 6 weeks ago?

Oh, I ratted J&S out to both the ASA and the local Trading Standards for the lulz bikey bruvs' safety. Let's see if they send a sternly worded email in 6 to 9 months.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Why were they talking in the future tense about something that should have happened 6 weeks ago?


From what I could tell -- not that I was playing a huge amount of attention to anything beside the items I was looking at -- almost everything they're selling now is the same as pre the rule change including the one piece race suits hiding away at the back that no one ever plays attention too.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's almost as if nobody cares. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
It's almost as if nobody cares. Laughing

Everybody who matters does. Folded arms
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that they, J&S, are either: (1) unaware, (2) not bothered or (3) allowed, by a law I cannot find, to sell their current stock and await until the new garments, that have been CE approved by manufactures, are sent in. If that's the case, though, the old stock isn't discounted so they're in no rush.

For interests sake I've taken a photo of the labels that came with the gloves for people to look over (apologies for crap photo).

First paragraph (I'll let you read the rest): "RST motorcyclist gloves have been designed by the manufacture as Personal Protective Equipment and have been independently tested and evaluated to EN 13594-2015 - Protective gloves for motorcycle riders."

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
allowed, by a law I cannot find, to sell their current stock and await until the new garments

There's a 1 year grace period for items that were covered under the previous PPE diktats.

Trouble is, motorscooter gear was never covered under PPE regs.

It's OK, I've let Trading Standards know that, and they'll get right on it, any decade now.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 20 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yawn. Nothing better to do?
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 20 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedy23 wrote:
Yawn. Nothing better to do?

I can multitask.

Why do you want bikers to die? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 07 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Bear in mind that the EU thinks that water doesn't prevent dehydration.

Yes, it really does think that.

It took 3 years for paid Eurocrats Carlo Agostoni, Jean‐Louis Bresson, Susan Fairweather‐Tait, Albert Flynn, Ines Golly, Hannu Korhonen, Pagona Lagiou, Martinus Løvik, Rosangela Marchelli, Ambroise Martin, Bevan Moseley, Monika Neuhäuser‐Berthold, Hildegard Przyrembel, Seppo Salminen, Yolanda Sanz, Sean (J.J.) Strain, Stephan Strobel, Inge Tetens, Daniel Tomé, Hendrik van Loveren and Hans Verhagen to come to that conclusion, troughing expenses all the way.

So my conclusion is that the whole lot of them can take their CE labelling and shove them up up their dehydrated diktats.


Catching up a bit. This is poorly reported Roger. Source: my wife did the required research to prove the claims that the water bods wanted to include in their advertising.

Key bit:
Quote:
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”


It was quite complicated, but in essence there were misleading adverts made and they were stamped on.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 07 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The actual claim wrote:
Regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration and of concomitant decrease of performance

Your wife doesn't believe that to be the case? Thinking
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 13 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
it. It ain't the Soviet Union over there yet, y'know Smile


I don't think back in the days of the Soviet that Eastern Bloc states gave a $hit about such stuff. I don't think they do now either.

All this stuff just reinforces my view the UK should grow some balls and make a move to take over Europe. We have the cannon fodder so why not.
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