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ceepaulc57
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 13 Jun 2018    Post subject: Bluetooth intercoms Reply with quote

Hi All, new to BCF.
I am just returning to riding after a lay off and have picked up a Triumph
speedmaster. As we plan to try and do some touring, I would obviously like us to be able to talk as we go on our merry way. Looking at whats available these days and its the usual overwhelmed with choice, so wondering whether some of you could make suggestions/experiences just to give me some advice. Thanks Smile
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josdr
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 14 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the Sena products.. They work.... Very Happy
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raesewell
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 14 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how much you are willing to spend. I cannot praise the Sena 20S Evo highly enough, it works, and it works well over long distance up to about three quarters of a mile. Sound quality is excellent.
But it comes at a price.
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Analogkid
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 15 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Cardo scala Packtalk, faultless and guaranteed waterproof, when choosing for me between the Cardo and Sena offerings there was a cigarette paper between them on features although Sena didn't have Mesh when I bought mine, but the Cardo won besides Mesh as Sena don't (or didn't) guarantee the water resistance.

If riding in a pack then see what everyone else has, it's easier to pair, or get ones with Mesh technology, with Mesh I can use BT 1 for phone/music, and BT 2 for satnav, Mesh then takes care of rider to rider comms, with BT only, one channel will be for comms (and some you have to switch between channels), with Mesh on the Packtalks the music is attenuated and voice comes over on top, but you still hear music, you also have the ability to share music, mine have FM radios built in too, but the reception can be a bit patchy, especially in the hills.
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raesewell
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 16 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used my Sena 20S Evo in all day long heavy rain and they worked perfectly. I don't know where the rumours of not being waterproof come from.
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Analogkid
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 16 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
I have used my Sena 20S Evo in all day long heavy rain and they worked perfectly. I don't know where the rumours of not being waterproof come from.


Sena themselves, not waterproof, only water resistant, and can be used in inclement weather (subjective) they also admit units shut down when they detect water, and restart when dried.

Cardo is IP67 certified (objective)
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raesewell
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 17 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Analogkid wrote:
raesewell wrote:
I have used my Sena 20S Evo in all day long heavy rain and they worked perfectly. I don't know where the rumours of not being waterproof come from.


Sena themselves, not waterproof, only water resistant, and can be used in inclement weather (subjective) they also admit units shut down when they detect water, and restart when dried.

Cardo is IP67 certified (objective)

I think you'll find that Sena are erring on the side of caution. As I said they are waterproof in all meaningful terms. I wouldn't advocate immersing them in water for any length of time but wearing them on the bike in torrential rain for hours on end they worked fine and continued to work fine.
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Analogkid
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 17 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
I have used my Sena 20S Evo in all day long heavy rain and they worked perfectly. I don't know where the rumours of not being waterproof come from

Sena themselves, not waterproof, only water resistant, and can be used in inclement weather (subjective) they also admit units shut down when they detect water, and restart when dried.

Cardo is IP67 certified (objective)

I think you'll find that Sena are erring on the side of caution. As I said they are waterproof in all meaningful terms. I wouldn't advocate immersing them in water for any length of time but wearing them on the bike in torrential rain for hours on end they worked fine and continued to work fine.


I suspect you are right, I only answered your last post as you mentioned rumours, but direct from Sena is not a rumour.

Me I'd rather not gamble, and with Sena themselves covering their arse, I'd rather go with Cardo who at least have faith enough in their product to have them properly certified, these things aren't cheap.

I'm sure either brand would be fine and the OP should consider what the majority of his riding mates use for ease of connection.
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 18 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
I have used my Sena 20S Evo in all day long heavy rain and they worked perfectly. I don't know where the rumours of not being waterproof come from.


A friend of mine purchased a two pack of 20S' and one of those died due to water ingress earlier this year. Happended out of warranty though so I don't think anything can be done.

His other one is still working fine, so if you get a good one it should last.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 18 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is important to make sure the rubber flaps are fully closed and secured.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
It depends on how much you are willing to spend. I cannot praise the Sena 20S Evo highly enough, it works, and it works well over long distance up to about three quarters of a mile. Sound quality is excellent.
But it comes at a price.


30K is pretty damn decent as well - battery doesnt like not being used though... after 2 weeks of not use its flat and needs recharging.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no personal experience but I here the new Scala mesh technology is pretty good.
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 05 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the new Sena SRL (custom for the Shoei Neotec II), its my first bluetooth intercom but I am happy, I can hear sat nav at speed with earplugs in, the battery lasts all week commuting or at least a full days ride. Voice commands for music and calls.

Pricey but worth it, no more buggering around with headphones.
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Mr A
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Bluetooth intercoms Reply with quote

I just bought a Freed Conn off Amazon for 40.

To be fair only bought it to use with Sygic GPS app voice directions, and seems to be working fine.

Supposed to be waterproof (not tried it yet) and connect 3 ppl as intercom.
Music is clear and loud, also have FM radio function.

Will see how long it last. Never had a bluethoot intercom, and didn't want to splash on a more expensive branded one, just to try with a GPS app

Just my 2 pence Smile
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 07 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike to Bike or just bike to passenger?

I bought the same as above but branded Buyee. About 60-70 for a pair. Works fine below 50 but gets a bit sketchy after that. Fine for what I use them for.

(Means the Mrs can't complain when I go too fast for her Wink )
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andy_uk
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 14 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Bluetooth intercoms Reply with quote

Mr A wrote:
I just bought a Freed Conn off Amazon for 40.

We have a pair of them and the only let downs (for me) are :
1) They can't be charged 'on-the-go', but as long as we don't go on a rideout more than 6 hours then they're fine.
2) You can't use rider-to-rider comms at the same time as music/satnav
Other than that, they're brilliant.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 14 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

We did the national road rally, had ours on non stop the entire time, started at 11.30, got home around 9.

Mine conked out 5 minutes from home, the Mrs set was still working.
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andy_uk
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 15 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good going!
We set off to Wales (the long way round) at 8am and arrived at our base just after 4pm, by which time both of ours had died.
Having said that though, we've had them over 2 years so the batteries may have degraded by now.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 15 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was surprised myself. But they are less than a year old so maybe still at the top of their game.
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