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Posted: 21:46 - 11 Jun 2018 Post subject: Fixed penalty notice for non endorsable offence |
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Can I avoid paying this?
Also how does enforcement of these work in the main land?
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I'd pay it.
They still do Birching and Dipping on the IOM.
Wee No. Plates aye get the Ghey from the PoPo so what's the attraction for them?
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What offence did you commit?
To be more specific, what offence under IoM law did you commit in the IoM by having a vehicle not registered in the IoM that wasn't displaying a plate of the prescribed size for vehicles registered in the IoM?
I ask because the IoM Licensing and Registration of Vehicles Act 2001, as amended by the Road Transport, Licensing and Registration (Amendment) Act 2018, on any reasonable interpretation could only apply to vehicles kept and registered on the IoM.
For the S12 offence (failure to exhibit) to apply, the vehicle would have to be subject to S11 (requirement to register and affix). Note that they've put the wrong number on it: 11-3 is the requirement to affix, but the offence itself is 12-1. However, this is helpful, because it means that they're explicitly asserting that Section 11 applies to your vehicle.
That's jive, because it means that they're saying that all vehicles present on the IoM must instantly be registered there and display IoM allocated VRMs as per S11, which is farcical. Every vehicle that rolls off the ferry is then committing an offence.
Put another way, if you turned up with some 3" x 2" Elbonian plate on it sporting Elbonian heiroglyphs that's perfectly valid in Elbonia, could the IoM do you because it doesn't meet their registration mark regulations?
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Could also be read as not having a number plate at all? So what sort of number plate, if any, did the OP have?
If you don't pay it, they'll probably send you a summons which will give you an option of pleading guilty bypost or attending court to argue your case. If you don't attend, next time you set foot in the IOM, you'll be arrested for failure to appear when summonsed (not the original offence)
They did a mate of mine for going the wrong way up a one-way street on his scooter during the TT a few years back and that was the upshot, if he wanted to contest it, he was free to do so but he'd have to go back to the IOM to attend the hearing. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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All I can add is - don't fuck with the IOM judicial system unless you're sure you'll win.
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I'm not sure of the legalities of it on the mainland, however as already mentioned, if you'd like to go back to the IOM and don't want to spend time in court, or in the cells, you need to pay it.
AIUI the IOM government has agreed to buy out the Steam Packet, so it will be even easier for them to check manifests, you can guarantee your name now has a marker against it.
The IOM have their own rules, should you return there without paying they will make your life exceedingly difficult.
Why would you want to do that for the sake of £60? ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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For the sake of £60 I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. It's a fair cop guv etc. Just pay the fine.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 340 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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