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HappyDays
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Yet another way to screw the drivers/riders Reply with quote
Hi all,

I know this is for general bike chat but if we all get £70 fines for cars/bikes on the pavements then the roads are going to be even more a joke and dangerous.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/parking-on-pavements-law-police-14801502

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/784500/pavement-parking-UK-laws-rules-ban-fine
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Re: Yet another way to screw the drivers/riders Reply with quote
HappyDays wrote:
Hi all,

I know this is for general bike chat but if we all get £70 fines for cars/bikes on the pavements then the roads are going to be even more a joke and dangerous.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/parking-on-pavements-law-police-14801502

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/784500/pavement-parking-UK-laws-rules-ban-fine


So you don't think that BMW driver did anything wrong? 😲

And you think that roads are safer and less of a joke with pedestrians and wheelchair users rocking into them randomly around cars blocking the pavement?

Really???!!?!

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PostPosted: 12:40 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Re: Yet another way to screw the drivers/riders Reply with quote
Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
HappyDays wrote:
Hi all,

I know this is for general bike chat but if we all get £70 fines for cars/bikes on the pavements then the roads are going to be even more a joke and dangerous.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/parking-on-pavements-law-police-14801502

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/784500/pavement-parking-UK-laws-rules-ban-fine


So you don't think that BMW driver did anything wrong? 😲

And you think that roads are safer and less of a joke with pedestrians and wheelchair users rocking into them randomly around cars blocking the pavement?

Really???!!?!

NO!! BMW caused an obstruction so should be fined, So now we all have to pay because of the minority.
Guess some people like being screwed..






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PostPosted: 12:41 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
I absolutely hate it when I have to step into the road to get around a car that's been dumped on the path.

When I'm out with soon-to-arrive-babby-snoo I will just scrape the pram right down the side of the coonts' cars.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
I obviously don't "get" the point of your post then sorry?

Cause an obstruction and get fined. Seems fine to me.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
DrSnoosnoo wrote:
I absolutely hate it when I have to step into the road to get around a car that's been dumped on the path.

When I'm out with soon-to-arrive-babby-snoo I will just scrape the pram right down the side of the coonts' cars.


Jeans with zips on the back pockets work well when you are forced to edge through the tiny gap sideways fyi.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
I obviously don't "get" the point of your post then sorry?

Cause an obstruction and get fined. Seems fine to me.



Point is Mr nice ticket man can go around and slap a ticket on ANY CAR/BIKE that just slightly on the kerb even when not causing a obstruction..
Wow, that would make some CASH.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
HappyDays wrote:
Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
I obviously don't "get" the point of your post then sorry?

Cause an obstruction and get fined. Seems fine to me.



Point is Mr nice ticket man can go around and slap a ticket on ANY CAR/BIKE that just slightly on the kerb even when not causing a obstruction..
Wow, that would make some CASH.


Can they though?
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can they though?[/quote]


Yes, Under the new rules, drivers could be fined £70 for parking on the pavement/kerb side.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes, Under the new rules, drivers could be fined £70 for parking on the pavement/kerb side.


So these "new rules" exist..... Have been passed... And are currently being adopted by all councils outside of London are they? That was quick.

I'll simplify my sarcasm - it's never going to happen. Councils dont have the available space for parking for the cars that would be displaced. These stories are nothing more than raising awareness of the acts. (Imho)
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
Councils dont have the available space for parking for the cars that would be displaced.

Why's that going to be their problem? It's mad dollah for them, plus "creates" "work" for another swarm of Pataweyos and pound monkeys.

I'm all for actual enforcement of the current law on obstruction, mind. The local 5-0 have actually started lifting caddishly parked cars. Not often, but they do run occasional swoops and bag whole rows of them, thereby actually removing the obstruction, and raking in fat kickbacks from the pound wallahs ensuring justice is done.

I wouldn't trust any of the commie councils up here with the power to rake in revenue for a wheel on the curb or a nose slightly off your own property, which is how I'd fully expect it to be administrated. That's based on my personal experience with the Glasgow Cooncil Blue Meanies.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well assuming we all know it is happening - a motorcyclist would be a fool to park in a pavement.

Also assuming that means they either park in a car space or worse - take an actual car....

We won't miss out. It will be the car drivers that are stuck in the queues (that we filter past) that lose out on the spaces that we now occupy. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
This could cause even more problems- first thing that popped in my head after reading that (well, third- first was BMW drivers are coonts, second was council's are coonts and if this happens I hope it's only vehicles causing an obstruction, not anything on the kerb/pavement, but that would require too much thought and judgement) was I'm sure plenty of riders put their bike on the pavement for security reasons, maybe they can see it from their office window or there or something.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Wheels on pavement Reply with quote
Well they already fine you around here even if one wheel is slightly on the pavement
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Re: Yet another way to screw the drivers/riders Reply with quote
HappyDays wrote:
Hi all,

I know this is for general bike chat but if we all get £70 fines for cars/bikes on the pavements then the roads are going to be even more a joke and dangerous.



Not really.

You don't know what it was like previously in Manchester. In Manchester parking attendants were ticketing crashed motorbikes and even buses that stopped to drop off and pick up passengers.

In Bury a parking attendant had been caught photoshopping 100s of tickets as all the evidence photos were strangely black and white.

Due to this the major contractor for parking tickets was replaced. Today you can stick your motorbike in a cycle rack and nobody cares.

The key point here is obstruction. If you do park wheels on pavement ensure that a wheel chair can get past and nobody really cares.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've said it before, but I'll say it again.... twice in Glasgow I've parked my bike on the pavement and twice I've had parking tickets for it.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 20 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
andym wrote:
I've said it before, but I'll say it again.... twice in Glasgow I've parked my bike on the pavement and twice I've had parking tickets for it.

On double yellows, which do apply to the edge of the road including the pavement.

But point taken, you put it out of the way and not obstructing anyone. Same with me, mine was tucked right in a corner between nowhere and nowhere, with no foot traffic. One Meanie even said that it would take "a complete cvnt to ticket it there". Then it got ticketed.

Thus my lack of trust with giving cooncils even more powers to raise revenue.
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