Help please

Grentuu · L Plate Warrior Joined: 19 Jun 2018 Karma :

Hey guys. I’ve posted this on other forums and caused a lot of head scratching Sad

Suzuki Bandit GSF600S 2000 plate

I was riding along no problem. Turned into roundabout and bike dies. I try to restart, nothing. Check killswitch, all good.

I turn off and on. Neutral light and oil light come on. But absolutely nothing when I press the starter. I then check lights, horn etc. Nothing. In fact even the odometer is dead, no display. The only proof there is a battery connected is the fact the neutral light comes on.

Checked battery 12.7 resting, obviously can’t check under load. Haven’t tried bump starting as I have a glass back due to previous accident. All fuses are good. I called RAC who used a battery booster to see if that helped and nada. They double checked the fuses and still good including the main fuse by the starter relay.

The one thing I can’t hear is the relay clicking, but then again, I doubt power is getting to it.

If my thinking is correct, neither the clutch switch or side stand switch would affect the lights, horn odometer etc. So it’s something else?

So, no electrics except neutral light, all fuses good, battery ok (even with booster nothing happened)

I’ve never seen this before. Can anybody point me in a direction to start. The thing that’s thrown me is that I was riding when it happened and all was good one minute, then nothing. Could the ignition simply fail when riding?

Sorry lots of questions, just frustrated. Haven’t had a bike for 18 years due to multiple spinal surgeries. Had this less than a month and its sitting in the garage.

MCN · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :

Turned onto a roundabout is the clue.
A broken wire 'making and breaking' (in your case just broken) when you twisted the steering on the roundabout.

Maybe.
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jaffa90 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Karma :

Is the battery connected to the frame / engine?

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jaffa90 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Karma :

"""""" I try to restart, nothing."""""""""""
"""""I turn off and on. Neutral light and oil light come on. """""""

When you try to restart, nothing, do you have a Neutral light and oil light??

davebike · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Nov 2013 Karma :

Get multimeter
Trace power
It is probable a broken wire or faulty connector either to the inigtion switch or right hand handlebar switch

you cannot fix electrical problems without test gear !
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I've seen more than one bandit with a broken wire in the loom where it goes past the headstock. Look for chaffing.
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

I'll have a 50p each way bet on a ground wire broken or an eyelet snapped off at the neck somewhere

Neutral and oil lights usually don't depend on ground cables but connect to ground/frame/earth via the engine block.
All the non working systems mentioned have ground cables.
They are Black /White on a Suzuki.

I'd be looking at grounding connections, commoning points and terminals first
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

In case you're new to elastictrickery stuff.

Using the meters lowest resistance scale,
I'd strap one meter probe to the battery -Ve terminal then poke the other onto
bare metal on the engine block and frame first.
Compare the reading to what you get when shorting the probes together
I wouldn't want to see more than 1 ohm difference ideally.

If I got that, I'd poke around with the probe into any connector with a black/white cable
and expect similar readings.
Any high or off the scale readings would indicate a fault
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jpno5 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 09 Feb 2016 Karma :

check that its not a faulty tilt / tip over sensor thing, could be the culprit as you were leaning the bike in, these cause the bike to cut out, Not sure if your bike has one but it's something to check if you don't find an issue with the wiring.

I had a similar issue which was the tilt sensor, no one even suggested to me that it could have been a thing, hours of googling, totally embarrassed a few mechanics....