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I had an MT-03 (660cc) for about a year. Was great fun on the commute and for a weekend blast on the back roads.
However, that lump of an engine gets a bit vibey at higher revs. Taking it on NSL A Roads or Motorways for more than 15 mins and you'll be regretting it. The buffeting will leave you knackered and grumpy.
I traded it in after a few long journeys. I don't think I'd have a single again if I needed a multi purpose bike. ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls |
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Plus it was premium-priced when new, before Yamaha sorted themselves out with the MT-07, and last time I checked, sellers were still in fantasy land about the values. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I was going to get an MT03 (the proper version, not the 300cc scooter). Had a test ride on a nice one, ticked all the boxes apart from the money, was far too expensive. In my quest to find one chap I came across a Pegaso that looked good online and bought it remote. Big mistake - not the bike's fault, the dealer were having a proper laugh. Sent that back and went back to the drawing board.
Rode a local Duke 390 and found that it was proper friendly especially when pinned. Same power as the MT03 / Pegaso, but lighter and obviously newer. So looking at the used prices eventually worked out it was only a few quid more for a new one. So that's what I did. Had it up to 2500 miles, under 2 years.
About town it was / is the fastest mode of transport you could use. Nothing would touch it off the line and it seemed like you could fit in gaps that would have me wincing even on a road bike.
However. As above, the build quality is not KTM. Had condensation behind the clock, it would cut out at the first junction on cold mornings unless I warmed it up and the levers felt like they belonged on a small child's bike.
You're right in that it compares to a stroker (250ish) though, it made me behave quite the antisocial at some points, just like a stroker does. |
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el_oso wrote: | thunderwow wrote: | The 390 Duke is fun to ride but it's made out of cheese and is horrible to own.
In the 9 months that I had mine I spent more in repairs than I eventually sold the bike for, and frankly I was pleased I got anything for it at all in the end.
It's a shame, as it would be a cracking little bike if only KTM had some quality control. |
What issues had you found? |
In addition to the stalling issue, on a bike that was maintained over and above the schedule specified by the owners handbook:
Steering head bearings went (at ~7,000 miles).
Front disc warped (at ~7,000 miles).
Silencer corroded (by 10,000 miles).
Throttle stuck open (at ~5,000 miles).
Neutral switch failed (at ~8,000 miles).
Instrument cluster failed (at ~10,000 miles).
The quality was poor all round to be honest. Plastics discoloured quickly, decals peeled, paint flaked, rubber on the shift and brake levers perished, fasteners rusted. |
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Far off a two stroke? Not mine it isn't. My lightest bike (still with ton of road going equipment) is probably now around 95kg dry and it won't be any more than 110-115kg wet I predict.
For a fun bike that's not a serious long distance commuter or a comfy smooth daily hack, then light is right above all else!
For a fun bike for me, I'm not overly bothered if it's a 2 stroke or 4 stroke motor, or if it's a single or twin, but being 115kg or under fueled up is the No.1 factor in having fun for me.
I do like some of the naked 300's, as they arnt trying to look like a low rent half assed sports bike, and if they were light enough then yeah they'd be fun. A Honda CRF 300 SM would be much more fun than a CBR500, or Z650 etc.
But if your going to look at a naked 300cc road bike that's say 145kg, you'd have to ask yourself if you'd not be better off going all out to buy the MT07 (Yamaha's best MT by far!)
Personally for me it'd come down to how much riding and going places I wanted to do? You could take an MT07 anywhere and it'd be fine, but it's too big an engine and too heavy for me if I just want to ride around town centres, or down sunny evening country roads for 10-20miles or so. If you don't really go anywhere then keep the bike a very light one that goes from low speeds like a shaken bottle of pop with the top off. |
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Sorry, I was thinking the latter 125cc 2 stroke sports bikes; for instance an NSR125 is listed at 138kg dry and my 690Enduro seemed to have an accurate weight of around 138.5kg dry.
My 144XC is under 100kg, Rev 3 significantly under that and the GRC is around 20kg I think!
I'd still like to try a modern 250SX with SM wheels for revvyness and low weight with a pretty decent hit on-pipe. |
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Old Thread Alert!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 72 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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