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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 19:21 - 23 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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We just bend over and take it. Although it would be interesting to see what the reaction would be to a 100bhp upper limit if one were proposed.
Although, the UK government is very neglectful of motorcycles in general. So on the whole, they simply don't bother about them.
This works both ways because while they have a tendancy to fail to consider motorcycles as part of their transport strategies and road designs, they also don't come up with dumb shit like huge numberplates and mandatory reflective helmet stickers.
Most of the idiotic and/or annoying motorcycle related legislation that's come out recently has originated in the EU, not the UK. There's no point complaining or protesting about EU legislation because the European comissioners making it aren't elected and can't be removed and therefore don't care what the proles think. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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chickenstrip Super Spammer
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Posted: 19:27 - 23 Jun 2018 Post subject: Re: How do British bikers fight oppressive government rules |
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Sounds just like here in the UK.
lemoutard wrote: | We have a national association called FFMC which often organises public protests. I joined one of them mostly to meet fellow bikers, but I was really disappointed. |
We have a similarly useless organisation called MAG (Motorcycle Action Group). Long on words, short on effectiveness, and similarly more an excuse for biker get-togethers than any real hope of achieving anything. We also have a chap here on BCF called Rogerborg who likes to draw attention to them for some weird reason known only to himself
stinkwheel wrote: | Most of the idiotic and/or annoying motorcycle related legislation that's come out recently has originated in the EU, not the UK. There's no point complaining or protesting about EU legislation because the European comissioners making it aren't elected and can't be removed and therefore don't care what the proles think. |
I hold out little (no) hope for the situation to change any when (if) we finally get free of the EU. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE! |
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People make online petitions, join Facebook groups, occasionally go on a protest ride, post rants on Internet forums, and other such anarchist type behaviour.
The government are scared of us!! |
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As said, our government really don't even consider bikes
Push bikes - great, eco shit and all that.
Diesel cars
Petrol cars
Electric and hybrid
Motorbikes/mopeds etc. Na. not interested. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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stinkwheel wrote: | But hands up who actually replied the the recent VNUK consultation? |
On a local level, Glasgow Cooncil just announced that they'll be consulting on the upcoming LEZ zone. "The policy to extend the zone to all vehicle types will be supported by an economic appraisal and there will be engagement/consultation with interested parties over the next 12-18 months in order that the process is proportionate."
https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=22915
Which is nice. However, Al Beeb confidently report on the minimum emission standards for petrol and diesel cars, something which is definitely not in the Cooncil's literature.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44481390
It rather sounds to me like someone blabbed the conclusion of the "consultation" before it even started.
It's OK though, I've reported it to MAG as they've requested, so they'll swing into Action any second now. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Learn how to not give a 5#it. The worst that can happen is you get fined tben jailed then lose your job. However in the mega-unemployment state of tomorrow where almost everyone is effectively jobless/role-less, the leverage that threatening a person with fines and/or prison will lessen. There's a whole sub class of the population now who are pioneering the "don't give a 5#it" attitude. Just follow their lead. |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Mind you. The way things are going. Simply declare SORN, attach a fake numberplate and do what the fuck you want. You just rendered yourself invisible to algorithms and optical reading robots which is what passes for "policing".
Legislation without effective enforcement only works on people who want it to. Hence all the moped crime etc.
Did I ever mention my idea for a numberplate which would read a different number on a camera compared to the naked eye? ...
The chances of being physically huckled for anything these days are slim unless you are doing it in someones face badly enough for them to repeatedly report you. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 276 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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