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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Tips for NON destructive bar grip swapping please Reply with quote

The lads Lexmoto Arrow has been knocked over by neighbours cars at times
and both bars bent a bit as a result.
We've keyed their cars as a thankyou and now I'm swapping the bars
for straighter ones.
RH side is easy as the grip is on the throttle tube

LH side is the tricky one so I'm thinking soak in hot water?
unless someone has a better cunning wheeze

Tips for refitting so its snug and not twisting invited

TIA
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compressed air works surprisingly well if you have a compressor. Lift rubber, blow in, remove grip.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i need some advice on this as well, i ruined a set of heated grips last night trying to get them on, LH side i got on half way and couldnt move any further, couldnt get it off either! ended up tearing.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patience and (gentle) heat is all I can recommend. Really depends what it was stuck on with ....
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD-40 to remove, hairspray to refit.

Await's Tef's History of HAIRspraye elucidation.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't changed grips for ages but a mate just reminded me of
a guy we know used to swear by using hair spray to fit them

Never tried it myself just throwing it out there

BTW heating up a pan of water to see if that helps shift this grip
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ha
Rogers just confirmed it
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Haven't changed grips for ages but a mate just reminded me of
a guy we know used to swear by using hair spray to fit them


Tried recently. A tin of Sainsbury own brand value did not do the trick despite the recommendations. Perhaps if I'd have bought Vidal Baboon instead we'd be having a different conversation.

I opted for high temp contact adhesive in the end. 5 quid from screwfix. Worked a charm and wish I hadn't bothered with the first outing as now I have 3/4 a bottle of hairspray to use and I really don't like the sticky feel of it on my nads.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second for compressed air to loosen them off.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is a new pair pair of handlebars? How much is other stuff to do this job going to tally to? Does it need new bar ends, or levers too?
Once you start unhooking cluch or throttle cable and see how furred up they are and try oiling them, or replacing adjusters, or looking at fretted cable and dinged nipples, or or or whats the limit on how far you go, and how much you renew vs what you service or salvage.. and how much in total will a 'little' job like this likely ultimately come to?

A new pair of grips, is anywhere for £3 to £30... a pair of simple OE rubber grips, likely better than the ones fitted as OE on behalf of Lexmoto, are probably only £5-7....


For what they are worth, I would use a stanley blade to get the old ones off... and fit new ones with the glue likely supplied with them!

Dropping a motorbike when the LH grip slides off the bars, is rather more galling than finding a couple of extra quid to do do job justice, IME!!!

Trying to re-use old grip? IME is just futile and frustrating; if they are worth saving to start with, chances of them coming off 'good' is not wonderfully high, and will take as much time as they are worth, faffing with a kettle of hot water to try soften them, levering under them with a tea-spoon, patiently trying to twist or unroll them etc etc etc... and if they DO come off... odds that they'll go back on with as little hassle, and stay there, remain pretty much in the lap-of....

For a Fiver?........ Is it REALLY worth even trying?
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right....
was going to trot down to the poundshop but if Sainsburys stuff didn't help much
I may have to go upmarket or consider options
I'll ask the ladies in the hairdressers next door.

Grip is off !
I heated a tallish pan to boiling and removed it from the heat
and submerged the grip for a minute or so.
The grip moved a bit then stiffened so I repeated the dippy/twisty/pully thing a couple more times and orf it came!
I used gloves BTW
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the stuff I used by the way. Worked splendidly.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/nemesis-spray-contact-adhesive-clear-500ml/8064p
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks will maybe get that

The bars are two piece types that mount to the fork and yoke
so seperate removal is simple.
The bike is only 2 years old with very low mileage, so the grips, cables switches etc are all in excellent condition.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always used hairspray and have never had them move. Fitted a new set of fat grips to the bullet just the other day.

I wonder if people are degreasing things properly first?
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Mike
Negative waves man
Negative waves

[Shrug]
Sorry.. I still have PTS Flash-Backs to the pain of by putting on a durex... and wondering how it stayed up with such painful restricted blood-supply actually.... Rolling Eyes
Maybe it's just me....
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I've always used hairspray and have never had them move. Fitted a new set of fat grips to the bullet just the other day.

I wonder if people are degreasing things properly first?


Cleaned right off with a light rub down and a decrease with paraffin - cleaned off and left to dry off entirely for a couple of days before attempting reassembly.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
a de[g]rease with paraffin

Paraffin oil?

Go isopropanol or go home. Unless you're already at home, in which case get some isopropanol delivered.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 28 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
arry wrote:
a de[g]rease with paraffin

Paraffin oil?

Go isopropanol or go home. Unless you're already at home, in which case get some isopropanol delivered.


^^ This. Or brake cleaner/carb cleaner. Paraffin will leave an oily deposit on the metal.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, parraffin is the problem. I used brake cleaner on a rag last time because I've run out of electrical contact cleaner. Isoprop will do a similarly good job and is less likely to damage the rubber if you get it on the grips themselves.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was cleaned off extensively.

The contact adhesive didn't have any sensitivity to it, it just stuck like it should.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for suggestion foks
bars fitted and grips swapped and secure, all hunky dory now

I did consider Arrys Screwfix glue suggestion but cheaped out
I thought to myself
"What's cheap, easily available and all runny and slippery at first then goes sticky?" so did that

You may wonder if I did something crude and despicable, I couldn't possibly comment.
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