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Posted: 05:43 - 26 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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In my uni-years, I had a rather depressing collection of Kawasaki AR125 ignition barels on the bench in the shed, where my uncle dumped his hunting bag full of shot-gun shells.
It was an intriguing observation, that a typical motorbike ignition barrel is almost exactly the same diameter as a 12-bore shot-gun shell.....
This DID lead to some interesting concept sketches, given that a twocker trying to nick my bike... an-ffing-gain... would, odds on, bend over the top yoke, and try hammering a screw-driver into the ignition barrel....
Hmm.. what would happen if you took the shot out of a 12-bore cartridge, put the ignition barrel into it, and left the screws a bit 'loose' with a rivet under the percussion cap on the end? ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 08:39 - 26 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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Judge Ranty said:
“Get this into your head – knives are not cool. Any sensible person looking at this knife would describe it as evil."
He said that Maslen’s reasoning behind carrying the knife was “idiotic” and “warped”.
His reason for buying and carrying it was personal protection. He'd been carrying it for a couple of years without incident before he was attacked by two men who tried to rob him and he used it to defend himself. |
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Ste Not Work Safe
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Posted: 10:02 - 26 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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He could have been seriously injured by that no good thieving piece of shit if he hadn't been able to defend himself that night!!
I like how the now dead thief asked the victim "Do you want to die for a bag?" (sauce) |
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jnw010 wrote: | He said that Maslen’s reasoning behind carrying the knife was “idiotic” and “warped”. |
Sure, statistically speaking, almost nobody gets mugged, so he didn't really get mugged.
Dindu was tripping on "a recreational amount of cocaine"... as opposed to what other amount?
Reminder: a folding pocket knife with a cutting edge not exceeding 3" / 75mm is not an offensive weapon and you commit no offence by carrying it, either folded or open. Even if it looks offensive.
https://imgur.com/rcO9tL6.png ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 13:09 - 26 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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So in summary, if he'd carried a different type of knife, or had a reason for carrying it other than self defence, he wouldn't have been breaking the law and it would have been okay.
However, he was carrying it to defend himself when he had to defend himself, which makes him a criminal. Got it. |
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Posted: 14:02 - 26 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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Rogerborg wrote: |
Sure, statistically speaking, almost nobody gets mugged, so he didn't really get mugged.
Dindu was tripping on "a recreational amount of cocaine"... as opposed to what other amount?
Reminder: a folding pocket knife with a cutting edge not exceeding 3" / 75mm is not an offensive weapon and you commit no offence by carrying it, either folded or open. Even if it looks offensive.
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CRKT Liong Mah, carry one in my rucksack. Pocket clip makes it uncomfortable to hold though ____________________ Rogerborg wrote: It'd certainly make it easier to ego-find my own posts on pages, given the number of fags (gay like traps) who insist on putting my name in their .sig |
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Posted: 01:50 - 27 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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I finally got round to opening that link, the perp deserved 20 months just for the audacity to wear that badly tailored ginger fluff on his face. ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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BusterGonads Trackday Trickster
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On the legality of having a small knife in your pocket. If the knife is a lock knife of any size, it is an offence.
Trying to use a folding knife that is not a lock knife as a combat tool is a recipe for having it fold on your fingers and doing you more harm than it does to your assailant. If on contact with the attacker, there is any movement in the direction of the fold, it WILL fold on your fingers. I've hurt myself using a folding knife in the garden let alone in an attempt at self defense. It would be my absolutely least favoured choice to use a non lock knife like that.
I'd have thought that if you feel you HAVE to have something sharp about you, which I wouldn't really recommend given our laws, a four inch sharp, flat bladed screwdriver, would be a better bet. If you have it as part of a small pocket toolkit, you probably have a viable defense in having it with you, which you will almost never have carrying a lock knife about you in public.
This is all moot though, because in this country, if you are not young, fit and big, you probably have little chance of effective self defence against scumbag robbers unless you break the law and are prepared to go to trial to assert your right to protect yourself and your property. ONLY in home invasion situations like the Osborne Brooks one (stabbed pikey scum with screwdriver brought by Pikey scum into his house at night) will you get away with killing an assailant, because recent guidance said that A PERSON IN HIS OWN HOME when confronted by burglars should have the benefit of the doubt about the degree of force he used being reasonable. In other situations, the onus is on you to prove that you ONLY used REASONABLE force when someone who attacked you or attempted to deprive you of your property is seriously hurt or dies as a result of your actions. Having to prove this means going to trial for maybe GBH or possibly murder. Not a cheery prospect. Soooo Be a good little englander and just hand over your property to any scum that demand it. We are sheep as far as the law is concerned and nobody will help you - certainly not the police. They are probably much more keen to do the average citizen for a technical driving offense or for blowing their top on the Internet and offending a trans person, than they ever will be to help you when the scum of the earth remove your favourite motor cycle, break it into parts and sell it on EBAY. ____________________ 2016 Triumph Street Twin; 2000 Honda CG125; 1997 Honda Nighthawk CB250 |
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Posted: 16:35 - 29 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | In my uni-years, I had a rather depressing collection of Kawasaki AR125 ignition barels on the bench in the shed, where my uncle dumped his hunting bag full of shot-gun shells.
It was an intriguing observation, that a typical motorbike ignition barrel is almost exactly the same diameter as a 12-bore shot-gun shell.....
This DID lead to some interesting concept sketches, given that a twocker trying to nick my bike... an-ffing-gain... would, odds on, bend over the top yoke, and try hammering a screw-driver into the ignition barrel....
Hmm.. what would happen if you took the shot out of a 12-bore cartridge, put the ignition barrel into it, and left the screws a bit 'loose' with a rivet under the percussion cap on the end? |
The case would burst open like a banger. It is not strong enough to contain the propellant gases without the thickest part of the shotgun breach to contain it. That part of a shotgun breach is about 7mm thick and is tough steel. Then there is a very substantial locking mechanism to keep the breech closed under the explosive force of firing the cartridge. Unless it was a black powder cartridge, it wouldn't even make a loud bang. We used to have some alarm mines on the farm that were used to warn of villains tampering with doors to storage areas. They had to use black powder blanks to make a really good bang. Nitro powders don't work the same. ____________________ 2016 Triumph Street Twin; 2000 Honda CG125; 1997 Honda Nighthawk CB250 |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 17:26 - 29 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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tony1951 wrote: | On the legality of having a small knife in your pocket. If the knife is a lock knife of any size, it is an offence. |
It's a good job nobody has advocated carrying one then.
tony1951 wrote: | If on contact with the attacker, there is any movement in the direction of the fold, it WILL fold on your fingers. |
Not if it's buried hilt deep in their neck. I'm positing a situation where it's either presented as a visual deterrent, or it's already gone medieval and you might as well try to take one with you.
I just thank Allan that the Glasgow massive haven't yet starting aping London hijinks. I'd view it as merely being a matter of progress though. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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stevo as b4 World Chat Champion
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 295 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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