Black Widow Exhausts

[P.]

They come as a 2 piece? To replace the 1 piece that was there initially? Weird stuff.

[Dr. DaveJPS]

looking at their website they split the downpipe into 2 lengths (probably to givethemselves more "wiggle room" for fitting)

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[Mawsley]

Bought my BW 4-1 last year.

Delivery was bob on, packaging was bob on, pipe fitted like a dream and the sound is bob on.

Totally happy with Black Widow.

https://i.imgur.com/DXrASIO.jpg

[Johnnythefox]

the exhaust I was looking at increased in price from £319 to £349 a month ago.

[PenderB]

Yeah, it might have to do with fitment, but also allows for a much smaller package for shipping too.

The only quality flaw I would say is the poor finish on the carbon fiber tip, the rest is fine.

My biggest problem was their terrible customer service, there's no reason to give such poor service as I received, and they really had a 'didn't give a s**t' attitude- like I said, they just completely quit responding to me. It wouldn't have even cost them anything to get the shipping refunded, they just couldn't be bothered.
I've been riding over 15 years now (all classic R-bikes prior to this Honda) and never encountered this bad of service before.

[barneyuk]

I recently purchased a link pipe and silencer from Black Widow, it was for my 1999 Honda CB500SX twin.
While I couldn't complain about the quality of construction for the price, there was one part that has given me grave cause for concern on safety grounds.
The system was supposed to be a direct replacement for the original, with all fixing points and brackets being compatible.
However the bracket on the link pipe that is to prevent the centre stand from coming in contact with the drive chain bends upwards under the pressure of the stand spring, you can easily bend it back by hand but it just bends back again. This bracket is not like the OEM one, it is just a single flat steel bar. If you are not careful you find the stand is pushing the chain upwards and causing it to tighten. The first sign you get is that downshifts become difficult.
I emailed Black Widow with my concerns, their reply was we can refund or replace. I said a replacement was pointless as it would just do the same thing, I suggested that all it needed was a diagonal stay welded from the bracket to the pipe. They said due to production demands, this wasn't possible. They said all they could do was refund or replace.
Considering this could cause the chain to break and the rider to come off the bike I was amazed that they don't seem to be interested in doing anything.

[barneyuk]

[ARS125]

Had a black widow system on my YZF125R.

Sounded so good. Yes it was loud but not ridiculously loud.

Got pulled over a few times for other dr8ving related shit and the officers never complained about my exhaust.

Obviouwly if you stick one on a 600 its going to be louder. But they do make a good addition to 125s. The black widow kind of took away that shitty 125 sound and replaced it with a deep, crisp sound.

[PenderB]

1 year follow up on this exhaust, and my experience with Black Widow.

After less than a year of strictly fair weather riding (about 3 months of actual riding, as I don't ride in the fall and winter) the downpipe/header has seriously rusted.
Not just some surface rust, which would be normal and acceptable, but deep scaly rust, on the supposedly 304 stainless.
When I contacted Black Widow they told me they won't warrant it, they don't cover 'discolouration', they only use the highest quality materials, told me to 'look up 304 stainless on Wikipedia' because I didn't understand its properties, and stopped responding to me.
I've had numerous 304 stainless full exhaust systems on various cars over the years, which were driven year round, and never showed this level of corrosion at any point. I have had cheap non-stainless exhausts rust less than this in the same time frame, I have plenty of knowledge and experience with exhausts and 304 stainless.

Conclusion, DON'T BUY BLACK WIDOW PRODUCTS, their quality is overall low and unimpressive, their customer service I useless and insulting, and their warranty is meaningless.

[recman]

[Rogerborg]

Oh, right, they used to be SandyBikeSpares. The ones that did downpipes that melted through the bellypans on GPZ500S and they never admitted the problem, let alone sorted it.

Avoid with the white hot fury of a thousand suns.
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[Ed Case]

As the header pipe on my RV125 was originally painted black and now rusty I bought a Black Widow replacement and it's great quality and fitted like a 'bum to a pot', well pleased.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Itchy]

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[tom_e]

[G]

Oh yes; hadn't seen that post.

No idea how it works internationally, but probably not worth the trip to tell a magistrate your case in the small claims court.