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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Hartford 125 anyone any experience? Reply with quote

After something smaller to commute to work sold the scooter for profit as it was too slow going up hills. So I've been offered a hartford 125 it's a gn copy. Will be having fresh mot plus a good service.

Tiny bit of rust here and there including a cracked front mudguard. Now I've been offered it for £350. Just after opinions currently doing about 200 miles a week.

So would you or wouldn't you. The commuting by the way is all 30mph roads.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Never in my life have I worked on such a piece of crap!" [etc]

It's probably the best bike you'll get for £350, but I'd have a look at that front brake to see if it's as bad as reported. Also, if you think a scootay was slow up hills, is a 10hp GN copy going to be any better?

You'd just better hope that Tef doesn't emerge from New Bikers and the Workshop or you'll be getting the full "kitt" of PARTES novella.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclists overtook you on your scooter didn't they?
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
"Never in my life have I worked on such a piece of crap!" [etc]

It's probably the best bike you'll get for £350, but I'd have a look at that front brake to see if it's as bad as reported. Also, if you think a scootay was slow up hills, is a 10hp GN copy going to be any better?

You'd just better hope that Tef doesn't emerge from New Bikers and the Workshop or you'll be getting the full "kitt" of PARTES novella.


Just worried about the engine and with it being chinese mainly; I've seen that page but I trust people I know than random posts on that forum. Could possibly look at upgrading the front brake on it or changing out the front end.

Yes @ste going up a hill with it reducing down to about 5-10mph..
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd not bother, Mossy sold a YBR on here for 400, that was a steal as such.

If you want something with a bit more poke and can get to me, you can have my 250 4 stroke scooter for the low low price of £200. You just need to get it MOT'd.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're worried about the Chinese engine, I understand the Suzuki lump (probably built in the same factory) will drop straight in, as well a better front brake.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engines generally aren't the problem on Chinabikes, unless they are. By which I mean that if they're maintained they tend to work, unless the crankshaft shears or something equally comically extreme happens.

It's more the Chinesium that the rest of the bike is made of that might give you trouble. But nothing that you haven't dealt with before. Certainly easier to work on than a scootay.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 06 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Yes @ste going up a hill with it reducing down to about 5-10mph..

You or the cyclist? Razz
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 07 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be wary of opinions.
The guy bleating about single pot calipers in Roger s link
obviously had no idea how they worked so his opinion was worthless IMO.

If Hartfords are any good or not is unknown to me but as most of these bikes are based on common clones with mainly cosmetic differences, I'd judge each one on condition and whether PO's
serviced them properly.
They're all cheap and unspectacular but from my experience
working on them for my lads and others, they have been very easy to fix and keep running.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 11 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Be wary of opinions.
The guy bleating about single pot calipers in Roger s link
obviously had no idea how they worked so his opinion was worthless IMO.


Definitely agree. He must wonder the same about the majority of cars with single piston calipers too.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 11 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor obs, I was more terrorscared by the pads apparently not being secured.

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