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Tony12345
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 19 Jul 2018    Post subject: Licence help Reply with quote

Hi, I'm having problems understanding my driving licence, it's been changed so many times by DVLA and they have made a mess of the licences lol.
I passed my driving test in 1992 with motorcycle entitlement. I started when I was 16 on a moped till I got a car. Now 26 years later I'm looking to get a bike lol. According to my licence and DVLA licence checker I have full entitlement for AM, A 79(3) restricted to tricycles. (I never passed my bike test). I have checked my provisional licence and I hold a cat A.
The A states I can ride a motorcycle of a power exceeding 35kw or with a power to weight ratio exceeding 0.2kw per kg.. etc,etc. What is this in English?
I figured I can ride any size motorbike on L. plates after taking a CBT test.
Is this correct? Or if not what can I legally ride on l plates after a CBT test. Thanks
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 19 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Licence help Reply with quote

Tony12345 wrote:

I figured I can ride any size motorbike on L. plates after taking a CBT test.


Sort of. As long as you're in radio range of a suitably qualified instructor. But that's practically no use to you in the real world.

Once you have your CBT you're on a 125 if you exclude the whilst under tuition piece - and that's that til you've done your A licence.

I say A and not A2 (or even a1) as there would be naff all point doing anything other than full A given your age.

The exceeding bit just means you have provisional entitlement for more than a tiddler, but doesn't negate your need for an instructor in radio range.

Hopefully that makes sense.
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Tony12345
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 19 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Licence help Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Tony12345 wrote:

I figured I can ride any size motorbike on L. plates after taking a CBT test.


Sort of. As long as you're in radio range of a suitably qualified instructor. But that's practically no use to you in the real world.

Once you have your CBT you're on a 125 if you exclude the whilst under tuition piece - and that's that til you've done your A licence.

I say A and not A2 (or even a1) as there would be naff all point doing anything other than full A given your age.

The exceeding bit just means you have provisional entitlement for more than a tiddler, but doesn't negate your need for an instructor in radio range.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Ok I see, so a cat a much like a car you need an instructor with you till you pass a full test.
Atm I'm buying a newish 125 weekend after a CBT, i can pretty much ride same as I did with my 50cc
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 19 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much.

Counter idea. Don't sink cash into a 125; sink cash into test and buy something worthwhile that's better value for money.

You can thank me later.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for going straight to your A training and tests.

When you do your CBT, tell the training school that you're thinking of doing so, and see if you can blag a quick go on a 600cc+ training bike.

That'll help you make up your mind sharpish. I can assure you that you won't want to go back to a commuter 125 after that.

If you decide to ignore that advice and buy a 125 instead, I'd urge you not to even sit on anything bigger under you're ready to get licensed up, as you'll instantly have buyer's regrets.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no benefit to wobbling around with L plates, that's for kids who're not old enough to get a big boys license.

Do what Roger said. Thumbs Up

(Roger, you missed the opportunity to say that the CBT isn't a test Razz)
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
(Roger, you missed the opportunity to say that the CBT isn't a test Razz)

The evaluation is like an informal test. A test-ease, if you like.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

We Found 439 Clips With "Test-Ease"
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can confirm...
Spent 4 years on CBT (admittedly on a nippy 2 stoke. . . . .).
Did full test and wouldn't bother going back.
Bigger bikes are easier to ride, handle better and you can get a lot more bike for your money! First big bike was a 98 cbr6, £600 and didn't want much over basic maintenance (and a spray job Laughing), then tracked it and sold it the next year. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 20 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for the comments. Tbh I already put s deposit on a 12 plate 125cc. The idea was to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. My stepson wants to ride and pass for a larger bike, but he has newer licence so he has to start with a 125 first anyway, as far as I believe, also I don't want him to jump straight in on a more powerful machine with out exp on a smaller bike first. Also it would be more ideal for me for work and getting to town. Work is only 10 miles from my home and town a few miles. It would save a lot in fuel lol. Also I found I can insure a 125 as a learner full comp for next to nothing. I figure a larger bike for me would prob be too expensive at the moment. Also I already have a full A licence restricted to trikes. I had thought of trikes as would probably be more practical.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 21 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
There's no benefit to wobbling around with L plates, that's for kids who're not old enough to get a big boys license.


Sometimes the student needs time on a 125. I have a guy starting DAS today that I terminated his DAS course last year, He just was not ready for a big bike. He tried the zero to hero thing and after a couple of days I cancelled his test, told him to spend 6 months at least on a 125. He called to rebook for his DAS this year saying it was the best advice he had ever had.

Sometimes you need the 125 experience to learn the finesse needed.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 21 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony12345 wrote:
Also I already have a full A licence restricted to trikes. I had thought of trikes as would probably be more practical.


Well it is tonnes easier to filter through traffic on a trike, and you don't have to pack waterproofs.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 26 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Tony12345 wrote:
Also I already have a full A licence restricted to trikes. I had thought of trikes as would probably be more practical.


Well it is tonnes easier to filter through traffic on a trike, and you don't have to pack waterproofs.


and you can park them in motorcycle parking bays for free
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Tony12345
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 29 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT today, the 125 I was put on was too small for my leg length, so as a treat and I mentioned I already had riding esp and looking to do my A licence, I was put on a 500cc lol, yep much easier to ride Smile. So me and my stepson will get more exp on our 125 and do our a next year. I had a look thinking a large cc bike would be expensive, but on looking at insurance a 650cc fully comp and no access I can insure for £60 for the year lol.its worth looking into in near future.
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