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Posted: 10:33 - 30 Jul 2018 Post subject: Re: Anyone had a Bandit 12 and a Street Triple? |
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B5234FT wrote: |
I know it's heavier and less precise than the Triumph, but does it still have that hooligan character egging you on all the time? |
I've never ridden a Bandit 12, so don't speak from experience, but I'd say better to have a hooligan bike that handles than one that'll encourage you to wind open the throttle only to find it can't cope with the performance it's delivering. Unless you want a serious adrenaline rush each time it ties itself in knots ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Hawkeye1250FA wrote: | Handling is adequate...Bandit is great for hooning about the lanes. It's a wheelie machine. |
I'd probably like it then. I'm quite keen on delving into hedges and other roadside decoration
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Is the handling on the bandit really that bad? The Triple is waaay beyond what I need on the road. |
I don't know
But I suspect the weight, as you mentioned, will be a limiting factor. You could of course budget in suspension upgrades, and I must admit, I like the sound of that torquey motor, although perhaps even my perception of that is outdated.
But sure, if you want a straight line hooligan, it's probably not a bad choice if your budget is restricted. You can tune the nuts off those engines, after all ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Remember my old chap having a Mk1 1200, he nearly dropped a pillion off the back after an 'energetic' traffic light launch. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
Im surprised chicken strip didn't say buy a naked Fazer 1000, as that's probably a better more entertaining wheelie machine than a std bandit 12. |
I get the impression the Fazer 1000 is a much better bike than the Bandit overall, but with perhaps less low down grunt, but the OP wasn't asking for alternative suggestions. And besides, as you have demonstrated , my preference is pretty well known here by now.
The earlier carburetted Fazer like mine wasn't made in a naked version anyway, only the later FZ1, although obviously you could rip the fairing off - don't know why you'd want to on an un-crashed example though. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Oh - I missed that it was the street triple not the speed triple.
Massive difference then.
Basically, you're swapping your motorcycle for a boat anchor with an engine!
I'm pretty convinced the bike always parked outside screwfix with a 'bandit' cover was actually a decent bike... they just knew no one would bother with it with that cover on it . |
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Owned one, ridden the other, both over hyped and ultimately disappointing. Can't imagine a STR being too much for anyone. Bandit 12 was okish in the day, heavy, crap brakes, fork seals made of plasticine but a half decent engine. STR, underpowered, uncomfortable, suspect build quality, crap suspension even on the R.
Save your money and look at something else, both are crap IMO. Modern or retro I could think of loads of bike I would buy rather than them 2. But thats just me, each to their own.
OGR ____________________ 2022 Tiger Sport 660 2019 Street Twin 2003 K3 gixxer 1000 1998 Srad 600 track hack |
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I had a striple a few years back and I currently have a B12.
Not very similar bikes IMHO. The striple was light and revvy with power at the top end. The bandit is heavier, poorly sprung as standard and all the power is low down.
You can probably be a hooligan on any bike but it seemed easy on the striple.
Although its naked I mainly use the bandit for touring but I am an old boring bastard. ____________________ Current Bikes: 2006 Suzuki Bandit 1200, 2008 Suzuki SV650N.
Previous Bikes: Yamaha FS1E, Mobylette Moped Thingy, Suzuki GS125, Kawasaki Zephyr 550, Kawasaki Zephyr 750, Kawasaki ER500, Suzuki Bandit 600, Honda CBR600F, Triumph Street Triple 675, Suzuki V Strom 650. |
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B5234FT wrote: |
It's less about where the power is, as much as the overall character of the bike TBH. The triple is grin inducing in a way that an SV650 just isnt. |
Character is just the sum of a bike's faults.
So buy a really old, unreliable dog of a bike - character in spades!
Or buy an Enfield...
I'm not really helping, am I?
Despite what OGR says, the problem is, you're starting with a very good bike. Since owning my Striple, I've lost interest in trying anything much else, unless it's way over any budget I might have had.
Still not helping, really...
Look, it has to be said. Buy a time machine and go back to when 2 strokes were common and affordable. Problem solved ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I've owned an 09 Street R and a 03 1200 also ridden 2 mk 1 1200's.
The STR was in a whole different league ride wise, handled, braked and I would say accelerated quicker than a stock Bandit, overall it's a far superior machine to ride for say a weekend blast out.
The mk 1 bandits are still fun in their own way, just 'numb' compared to the Triumph but I would say better for touring and commuting (still not the best).
Mk 2 1200s had a bit of an identity crisis I think, I liked mine still. ____________________ Current: 02 FZS 1000 Some Bike Pics...
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lilredmachine wrote: | Bandits are what you make of them. I laugh at the idea of the Bandit brakes being litter, the street triple still has 2 pot sliding shit as standard, unless you spring for the fantastically expensive 'R' model. Even in '96 the Bandit had 4 pot Gix brakes. Bandits are poorly sprung out of the box, but so is every bike, the MT-09 being a particularly lucid example. Bandits are cheap, have an unburstable motor that responds incredibly well to mild tuning, are a simple machine to work on and can be made to do whatever you want to do.
Having had both a Striple and a Bandit, I know what I would rather have in the long run. Just don't get a Mk2. |
I like the idea of an early Bandit with the kind of mods you get up to!
But by the time I'd finished with one and got it how I like it, I could have bought a Street Triple R three times over, and it would be even less suitable for going round corners
There are plenty of secondhand STRs around that you wouldn't need to lay out silly money for one - all they need is a bit of suspension fettling, but like you say, what doesn't out of the box these days?
As for owning in the long run, depends on what you want to do with it. If you're going to do lots of longer trips, or if you want to build a beast to launch up the strip, sure, the Bandit makes more sense. But if it's going to be a pure scratching tool, my money would go on the Triumph.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 264 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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