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Feasty
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Car jack on a bike? Reply with quote

I've got a centre stand on my F650, but need to support the front end whilst I drop the stanchions to the top of the yoke - to raise the bike.
Think it would work if I fashioned some wood to sit and be stable between the bike frame and a standard car jack? Thumbs Up

My other thought is to use some ratchet straps from the garage ceiling beams and hold the front end up that way?
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remove the front wheel before you drop the forks, should be enough clearance?
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or put a shed load of weight on the back of the seat.

Worked for me. It takes about 60 kilos so 3 sacks of potatoes.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Or put a shed load of weight on the back of the seat.

Worked for me. It takes about 60 kilos so 3 sacks of potatoes.


What a brill idea!

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PostPosted: 17:44 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively, have a mate to push on the back, while you stuff some wood (anything suitable) under the engine/lifting point.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put on the centre stand.
Weight the rear down or use a car jack under the engine or downpipes.
Front wheel off.
Put a wood prop between the lower triple clamp and the floor.
Fork legs off.

I did this on an old XJ600, using a trolley jack. I used the prop because I didn’t trust the trolley jack to hold steady over a long period of time. I was right, as the jack slowly lowered itself over the week or so it was in place; the prop held.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got two car jacks a trick you can use is to turn your footpegs upside down and then put a car jack on each one.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you can put it on the sidestand and jack somewhere under the front right of the bike until the front wheel comes up off the ground.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Block of wood across the down pipes with jack underneath,
OR rachet straps around bars/frame and over beams above,
OR push back down and jack length of wood up into head stock to keep it up...

All viable, would probably say rachet straps is the most stable as the bike cannot be knocked/fall off and potato stuff. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used a trolley jack with a wooden "cradle" to hold the front up.

But if you've got a suitable anchoring point, using ratchet straps to haul the back-end *down* is a pretty stable option, too.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
OR rachet straps around bars/frame and over beams above


Make sure the handlebars can't turn if that's done.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a ground anchor, ratchet strap the swingarm to it.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you not got access to a front stand?

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/20160906_192026_zpsg7qypztn.jpg~original

In the past I have used a block of wood under the engine together with a car jack and once up to the right height I placed some bricks under each side of the length of wood.Messy but it worked while I had the front end out of a R1

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture085.jpg~original
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had a problem with side stand (or axle stands) and trolley jack and loading up the back of the bike (GPz sat on the trolley jack for 6 or so weeks without any problems, VFR sat overnight like that):
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/andy36586/GPz750/balanced2.jpg~original
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/andy36586/VFR/VFR_zpscccvvbg0.jpg~original
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/andy36586/forksremoved_zps635ade0e.jpg~original
Also done the same with the ninja and CBR when replacing tyres

Depending on which end I'm working on I'll either jack it up on the sump or downpipes.... only problem I've found is as the bikes have got heavier, the more stuff I've had to dump on the back seat to tip the balance.

Would I use a normal car jack.... nah I'd probably still buy the cheapest trolley jack I could find
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 25 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although in fairness, I've had a hydraulic jack slowly lower the bike onto the floor due to a leaky valve whereas a screw-operated car jack will stay where it's put indefinately.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 25 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Car jack on a bike? Reply with quote

'kin hell, BCF, solve the OP's problem, not yours.

Feasty wrote:
but need to support the front end whilst I drop the stanchions to the top of the yoke - to raise the bike.


Put the centre stand on a block of wood to raise the bike up a bit higher. Put any sort of weight on the back. Is the front wheel now clear of the ground? Then you can slacken the yoke bolts and drop the forks the required inch or so, job done, no drama.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 26 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used my ground anchor, just ratchet srapped the back wheel down to it.
Also ratchet strapped it to a beam in the garage, both worked fine,
I prefer to anchor it to something solid, too easy to have it fall off of jacks or stands when you're struggling thre forks back in.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 26 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

daverwheeler wrote:
when you're struggling thre forks back in.

Why is OP going to take the forks out? Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 07 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help, photo's were good too! Laughing

So I ended up with a piece of wood under the bike and a car jack under that, raised it up - had my wife holding the back of the bike to stop it toppling over - and got the forks spot on.

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 07 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Or put a shed load of weight on the back of the seat.

Worked for me. It takes about 60 kilos so 3 sacks of potatoes.


Sack of potatoes UK standard 25kg.

Razz

I think that's new potatoes. Smile
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