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arry
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. I might choose to have a 125 but to be restricted to one full stop? No thanks.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly, my advice is the opposite, don't waste your money on a 125, he's not a 17yr old without any other options


True, but I think it can be a useful stop-gap. Including the theory test there are 3 tests to complete after the CBT and failing just one of them can set you back over a month (depending on the time of year and where you live); a month of your expensive gear hanging impotently from a cloths hanger. Plus having a 125 allows you to be working from muscle memory during tests and lessons.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to disagree again. But you will only end up picking up bad habits before your training while poking around on a 125 for a month on your own.

Stick to the training and make your bad habits after your test, plus he won't have a 125 to have to shift afterwards which may or may not delay him getting a big bike, be it down to money, storage space etc
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacon wrote:
Sorry to disagree again. But you will only end up picking up bad habits before your training while poking around on a 125 for a month on your own.

Stick to the training and make your bad habits after your test, plus he won't have a 125 to have to shift afterwards which may or may not delay him getting a big bike, be it down to money, storage space etc


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That's a good point; the rider could pick up bad habits before the test which get hard to shake off. Or even more dangerious- learning how to use a bike and predict road conditions! And I'm not being (totally) sarcastic. For example; what would be a reasonable, safe, conservative pass between a parked car and the centre line may be marked down as 'insufficiant spacing' on the test. Whereas the rider who waits until a drifting Hummer H1 could make the gap would pass the test.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - i did my tests at about 32, after i had been driving for 15 years or so. that was about 6 years ago, so i was in much the same situation as you are now.

i did my CBT on an old 125, but it felt great (and fast lol), so i opted to do my tests asap and get on a bigger bike. the school let me have a quick go on an er6, and it felt so much easier to control, more stable, and much faster!

my mod one prep invoved watching training vids over and over until i knew the routine like the back of my hand, a couple of trial runs with the training school, and aced the test on the day.

mod 2 was pissing down with rain, and i made a silly mistake that cost me my pass. second go, different examiner, much better experience, test passed.

i haven't looked back since Thumbs Up

would i have pottered around on a 125 for a bit first? possibly, but after that go on the er6, i didn't want to get back on the gutless 125 Laughing

id go straight from CBT to full licence. you wont regret it, and you'll find that a decent big bike can be gotten for not that much more than a 125 Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:11 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

groovylee wrote:
and you'll find that a decent big bike can be gotten for not that much more than a 125 Thumbs Up


One does have to wonder who exactly buys a new 125, and like you said even the 2nd-hand 125s aren't much cheaper than the big bikes. They're either rich enough to think nothing of spending 2000+ on a bike they're only going to use for a few months, or they're part of the scooter commuter brigade except not wanting the scooter part.
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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: re Reply with quote

was in a similar situation to you, car licence since 17, driving since 23 and decided to start riding bikes at 28 due to getting fed up with london trains/tubes for commuting. did CBT at 28 and bought myself a 125, always planned to do DAS but kept being put off by price, rode around on a CBR125 for couple years then booked DAS and past first time easily (think the time on the 125 helped alot here) - still waiting another year before getting my big bike as no cash Laughing been on a 600 for past few months.

if you got the cash I would go straight to DAS, pass tests and get a 600, 125s are way underpowered and are just a pain to ride, you really have to push them hard to get them anywhere which is exhausting
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stevo as b4
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is true especially if your a commuter riding daily miles on busy boring and congested roads in alot of traffic. And in all weather's etc. A daily grind on a wet road in high winds can be really horrible on a small skittish bike.

But if your none of those things, and ride the quiet rural roads and lanes, pushing a 125 hard is a fair bit more enjoyable too.
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