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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Employers wanting to see employees passports. Reply with quote

Whats the legality of your employer wanting to see and take a photocopy of your passport?
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's legal as several laws were passed years ago requiring employers to check right to work on the UK with a penalty I forget how much if they are found to be employing people who don't have the right to work in the UK.

IIRC there was an exemption of if you were employed before 2008 and are still with the company then there don't need to be retrospective checks.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have one?
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm? Someone without a passport may/could be an illegal?

Employer looks at your passport and photocopies it, then I guess the new General Data Protection Regulations would apply.

Something about not sharing that information unless you give them consent.

However these days employers do what they like with very little chance of any comebacks.
You complain and suddenly you get fired for some unexplained reason that has nothing to do with you not letting them use that information (passport data) Mad
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Do you have one?


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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we invite the employer to this thread?

http://www.penumbra.org.uk/contact-us/
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archive before edit. Dance!

https://web.archive.org/web/20180809122600/https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=325273
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Ste wrote:
Do you have one?


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Hey, I can trace my lineage back to when one of my forefathers parked his boat on the beach at Hastings in 1066.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:02 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are legally required to check your ID and keep a copy.

Yes, I was surprised too. It's to do with knee-jerk gangmaster legislation which seems to directly contravene the GDPR.

Mine settled for a poor quality photocopy of the front of my driving licence. I told them I wasn't prepared to allow them to have a colour scan of my passport because I don't trust their data security.

That said, I'm in a privelaged position because with current staffing, if I leave, the business folds, AND I'm TUPE so I don't actually have to play ball withthe HR department if I don't want to. I don't think people often speak to them like I do. My annual appraisal should have been filmed and monetised on youtube because I answered every question utterly truthfully.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last 3 employers required it as an easy proof of eligibility to work in the UK, and ability to travel. There isn't really a lot of info on there that the company doesn't already have, beyond the passport number itself.

Meh, they pay your bills. Is this the hill you want to die on?
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

They get your details and block you from surfing pron on company Intranet.

That is the only real reason for ID checks now-a-days.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened randomly last year where I work.
Quite a few people were asked to provide details.
I wasn't asked but then again I did tell them not to ask me as after 29 years with the company, I felt it was taking the piss.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I answered every question utterly truthfully.


I did that once. Suddenly the world became very Orwellian. Shocked


Ill give them a dodgy photocopy. Maybe a few stains added.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:


Hey, I can trace my lineage back to when one of my forefathers parked his boat on the beach at Hastings in 1066.


So you're not the only one in your family with form for dodgy parking then?
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 09 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Ribenapigeon wrote:


Hey, I can trace my lineage back to when one of my forefathers parked his boat on the beach at Hastings in 1066.


So you're not the only one in your family with form for dodgy parking then?


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PostPosted: 01:23 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:40 - 10 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
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Oddly, back in ol' 1066 some guy pitched up claiming to be the "manager" as well. Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 11 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you have to get your clearence renewed every ten years you stop worrying about pointess shit like that.

Do you really think your employer doesn't have a right to check that you are who you say you are? After all, if they don't and you are doing something dodgy in order to not be caught working whilst receiving benefits (such as they are these days) they are assisting you to launder money. It's called due diligence.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 11 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


Do you really think your employer doesn't have a right.


No I don't think that, hence posting my question in this forum ffs.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 12 Aug 2018    Post subject: Re: Employers wanting to see employees passports. Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Whats the legality of your employer wanting to see and take a photocopy of your passport?


an employer does not need to see your passport if you are a British citizen, as the law does not require a British citizen to have a passport, there is a long list of acceptable documents, but some employers get it wrong and insist on passports, agencys more likely to get it wrong imho
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 12 Aug 2018    Post subject: Re: Employers wanting to see employees passports. Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
...but some employers get it wrong and insist on passports,

This. I worked for large, national chain of shops, now defunct.

At the time, I didn't posses a current passport.That employer insisted I get one, at my expense, or I would lose my job, nothing they can do, "it's the law". Told them I'd see them in an ACAS tribunal, and my solicitor sent them a letter informing them of the error of their ways. After all the dust settled, it turned out the HR bod was utterly useless, and decided everyone should have a passport, to save him work deciding if it something was valid proof of being a citizen. Several (large) payouts were given to staff that actually got booted over it in other, more diverse, stores.

They settled for a copy of my birth certificate and an apology in writing, which was amusing. I left not long after, writing was on the wall anyway, and that stunt made me a nice target.
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