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Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about women wearing those black letter-box thingies, unless it is in a situation where it is essential to be identified such as airport security, applying for a mortgage etc. As a non-muslim western honkey they do look a bit silly to me, but then so do Jewish skull-caps, Hindu turbans, Persian long, pointy slippers and the like... Come to think of it, so do hammer-pants, 'Manc' coats in the middle of summer, high-waist trousers and all manner of garb, but each to their own.
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I see them as person sized CCTV envelopes, as in you can't see what or more importantly who is inside. You regularly
hear we are surveilled (pun intended) more than any nation anywhere in the world. So hardly a terrorists playground given
we are watched so much as we go about our business. What a fantastic way to move persons of the authorities interest from
place to place, enclave to enclave without being caught, yet in plain view. I mean height is no giveaway regardless of gender, as
most of them are pretty short compared to the anglo saxon average and after a lifetime of pumping out a succession of
muhammeds, the women are as oblong as the men. So build and silhouette are no obvious markers either. And how
clever (and convenient) to give the item of clothing religious relevance making people too fearful to challenge the wearers
in case of the obligatory and swiftly delivered accusations of islamaphobia and racism. Just fucking ban it, (unfortunately)
there's plenty of places on this globe where it's considered normal garb, how about they fuck off there if it means that much
to them? Apart from lack of gibs of course??? ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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grr666 wrote: | I see them as person sized CCTV envelopes, as in you can't see what or more importantly who is inside. You regularly
hear we are surveilled (pun intended) more than any nation anywhere in the world. So hardly a terrorists playground given
we are watched so much as we go about our business. What a fantastic way to move persons of the authorities interest from
place to place, enclave to enclave without being caught, yet in plain view. I mean height is no giveaway regardless of gender, as
most of them are pretty short compared to the anglo saxon average and after a lifetime of pumping out a succession of
muhammeds, the women are as oblong as the men. So build and silhouette are no obvious markers either. And how
clever (and convenient) to give the item of clothing religious relevance making people too fearful to challenge the wearers
in case of the obligatory and swiftly delivered accusations of islamaphobia and racism. Just fucking ban it, (unfortunately)
there's plenty of places on this globe where it's considered normal garb, how about they fuck off there if it means that much
to them? Apart from lack of gibs of course??? |
Except that in Islam these days, women seem just as likely to commit acts of terrorism as men, and one thing a burka does is declare a person as someone of that faith.
I'm actually becoming more and more anti-Islam, but without going into it too deeply right now, I'm one of those people who prefer to avoid confrontation where possible, so I have largely held my tongue on the subject. And because if our Great (snicker) Leaders say we must have multiculturalism, there's not much I can do about it.
Perhaps with people like Boris (high profile, mainstream politicians) beginning to lift their heads above the parapet then, we may be able to start to do something about it. Unfortunately, Boris has been easy to discredit in the past, so I think it will require more than just him to make it happen.
On a more general note, that has been the problem with Brexit, Trump and many other things in recent years I think. The highest profile advocates of such change have always been easy to discredit for other things in the current socio-political climate. That doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong - just at odds with the, in my view, wrong direction that western societies are heading in. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Diggs wrote: | Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about women wearing those black letter-box thingies, unless it is in a situation where it is essential to be identified such as airport security, applying for a mortgage etc. As a non-muslim western honkey they do look a bit silly to me, but then so do Jewish skull-caps, Hindu turbans, Persian long, pointy slippers and the like... Come to think of it, so do hammer-pants, 'Manc' coats in the middle of summer, high-waist trousers and all manner of garb, but each to their own.
BJ is clearly making mischief and appealing to a base racism within the electorate.... |
Even though I said otherwise above, I do kind of agree with this. It's just that I've found myself disliking - more and more - anything to do with Islam. That's prejudice. And probably passes for what most people would regard as racist too. And I do try and catch myself and question why I've started to think this way. But I'm just fucking sick of it all now, and I just wish we'd never gone down some multi-cultural route all those decades ago.
Btw, I think if - back then - white working class people had been asked if they wanted a multi-cultural society - and been properly informed about what that COULD entail (i.e. the divisiveness and extra competition for work, burden on benefits - whatever and etc.), I think most would've been against it.
Back then the working class was quite conservative - even those who voted Labour. They weren't particularly liberal-minded, progressive or cosmopolitan (nor would I have been if I'd have been around at that time). It's part of the islander mindset - insular, suspicious and only tolerant up to a point.
So I don't quite understand how we arrived at where we are today. If I have a go at an answer it looks like conspiracy shite - e.g. The Powers That Be Did It. The post-war Liberal elite - those trained in Eton, Marlborough and Harrow pulled the lever marked "unleash the darkies" - that'll give the working class something to fight, and distract them from the real targets i.e. us the privileged elite.
We won WWII but lost the peace. The Yanks instructed us that not only could we not afford an empire any more but that we had to somehow make reparations for the one we had. After all, hadn't we basically dragged the US into the war, and then loads of support from them to win it? (Actually the commies won it but bear with).
So I'm not sure whether it was a naive liberal elite that unwittingly embarked on a grand experiment of multi-culturalism or whether it was a combination of economic and cultural forces that brought us to this point.
It's just that I do feel oddly uncomfortable and yeah, a bit threatened, by the muslamic head gear stuff. It looks sneaky and weird. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | But I'm just fucking sick of it all now, and I just wish we'd never gone down some multi-cultural route all those decades ago. |
Multiculturalism is a failure. If I moved to another country, I wouldn't expect them to accept all my ways, and would feel obliged to adopt the customs of that country. Anybody coming to live here should do the same. We should take what lessons we can from it and abandon the experiment. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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bhinso wrote: | I think what's wound me up most about Borisgate is once again a conflict between what fits the media's narrative and the general public opinion.
In all the opinion polls I've seen, the vast majority are backing Boris.
However, in the media the portrayed message is generally the opposite. OK have to consider a fair debate etc etc but it's clear what they want you to think. Special mention to the Sky news woman that compared the Burqa wearers to Simon Weston |
The media is another thing that is wrong with this country. They fail to accept any but a one-sided view (actually, I always thought news reporting should be coldly factual, but what do I know ).
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Our favourite islamic country Saudi Arabia (sure i have no idea why... ) bombs a school bus in Yemen, at least 29 children killed.
"The Saudi Arabian coalition later issued statement saying they conducted an airstrike in Saada, but were targeting missile launchers"
My eyesight isn't great but i think i could tell the difference between a bus ad a missile launcher |
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