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 Posted: 08:57 - 24 Aug 2018 Post subject: YBR125 Fuel Injected Hard to Start Cold |
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Hi All,
Adrian here and I'm (very ) new to motorcycling so please be nice . I recently bought a used 2011 reg YBR125 and it worked well for the first week or so but I'm now having trouble starting it.
Essentially, when starting the engine from 'cold' (left overnight), it takes several attempts to get the bike started. It takes 5-7 attempts of about 5 seconds each, it's turning over. I'm worried that this will ruin the starter motor eventually. Once the bike is started, I can immediately turn it off and starting is now easy (first time). I thought that maybe it's the spark plug so I've replaced it and I've charged the battery with an Oximiser 900. This has made no difference. If I leave it parked for a few hours, it will turn on fine on the first/max second attempt.
It's fuel injected and has no kickstart. When I turn the ignition on, I can hear the fuel pump whine and there are no engine fault codes flashing.
I don't know where I should go from here so thought I'd ask for advice before going to a workshop with it? Thanks  |
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Hi, Thanks for replying so soon!
Yep, I twist it by about 1/4. |
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 Posted: 10:01 - 24 Aug 2018 Post subject: Re: YBR125 Fuel Injected Hard to Start Cold |
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| adrian1112 wrote: | ... I thought that maybe it's the spark plug so I've replaced it and I've charged the battery with an Oximiser 900. This has made no difference. If I leave it parked for a few hours, it will turn on fine on the first/max second attempt. |
What did the spark plug look like? Black? Brown or white?
Did you test your battery voltage? And check for a voltage drop on pressing the starter? A regularly ridden bike with an OK battery shouldn't need external trickle charging.
Finally, my old ZZR, that became a bit of a struggle to start on the cold mornings, by a bit, I just needed slightly more choke. On doing the valve clearances, my exhaust clearances had tightened. Once they were all corrected, including some intake shims too, start up was a breeze. Have you check your clearances ever? ____________________ I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
Did have: '95 ZZR600 '83 CG125 '97 ZZR1100 '15 Hypermotard 821 SP Do Have: '10 ZX10R |
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| adrian1112 wrote: | Sounds like you're right guys. I also gave the local Yamaha dealer a call and asked and they confirmed that I shouldn't need to touch the throttle at all when starting, he reckons it's something to do with the throttle body assembly.
Thinking back, about 1 week ago, I dropped the bike on to it's right hand side when trying to park it against a wall at home (in my defence, t's a bit of an acrobatics excercise as the gap is so narrow). I didn't think much of it at the time as it worked fine for a few days. Looks like I may've damaged the throttle body in that drop.
Looks like I'll have to get it into a shop as I'd have no idea what I'm doing, annoying as I'm skint from buying motorbiking stuff!! :/
Cheers for the help, hopefully I can get this fixed! |
No better place to learn. Take pictures and post them here, there's plenty of people that will be able to help. Post a location too, there may well be someone who'd be willing to give you a hand, generally for the price of a all-you-can-drink brews
First place to start is to take off the switch gear, and have a nosey inside for anything loose. ____________________ I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
Did have: '95 ZZR600 '83 CG125 '97 ZZR1100 '15 Hypermotard 821 SP Do Have: '10 ZX10R |
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| DrSnoosnoo wrote: | | adrian1112 wrote: | Sounds like you're right guys. I also gave the local Yamaha dealer a call and asked and they confirmed that I shouldn't need to touch the throttle at all when starting, he reckons it's something to do with the throttle body assembly.
Thinking back, about 1 week ago, I dropped the bike on to it's right hand side when trying to park it against a wall at home (in my defence, t's a bit of an acrobatics excercise as the gap is so narrow). I didn't think much of it at the time as it worked fine for a few days. Looks like I may've damaged the throttle body in that drop.
Looks like I'll have to get it into a shop as I'd have no idea what I'm doing, annoying as I'm skint from buying motorbiking stuff!! :/
Cheers for the help, hopefully I can get this fixed! |
No better place to learn. Take pictures and post them here, there's plenty of people that will be able to help. Post a location too, there may well be someone who'd be willing to give you a hand, generally for the price of a all-you-can-drink brews
First place to start is to take off the switch gear, and have a nosey inside for anything loose. |
Cheers! When people say bikers are friendly people, they're not kidding!! I'm based down in Central London though can get myself to most parts of London.
I've got an intensive training course most days but I'll have a play with it tomorrow and see what I can photograph of the throttle assembly. When I bought the bike, the throttle body (as in the whole tbing) rotates on the bar as the retention pin is missing - you have to push it really hard in order to do so. Hopefully removal should be easy
Anything I should look out for? I've bought a multimeter so I'll have to add to my armoury! |
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£15 to fix it ____________________ This post is probably not serious and shouldn't be taken literally.
Past: CBR125,ER6f NINJA 650, ZZR600 Current: VFR750 |
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Cheers. I've ordered it and will fit it (or at least try to...) next week. I will post back with the result!
Thanks guys for the help so far! |
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