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evilzed wrote: | It mattered to me but I think it doesn't as much anymore, my FZ1N looked amazing IMO but I found I was using my commuter Suzuki waaay more due to having a top box centre stand etc etc
.....I ended up adding a top box rack to the FZ1 2 weeks ago, it was a really hard decision to make practicality just won out. |
What if practicality wasn't a consideration for you? What if cost wasn't a consideration? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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grr666 wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
What if practicality wasn't a consideration for you? What if cost wasn't a consideration? |
This is where I'm at tbh. It's literally a toy. Wifie has her beautifully appointed studio and I have my bike. With
a brand new, heated garage for me in the pipeline. Coming next spring when the builders start building it.
If I had to commute. I'd bolt a top box onto it first and then just use the scoot. Indeed if I have to run an errand then
I just use the scoot. It helps that it's a bit tatty so I have no attachment to it like I do my bike. |
It seems a bit obvious that if practicality is your first consideration, looks aren't going to be high on the list. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I would think it depends on background. But hi-viz orange and yellow would seem to stand out against a greater variety than white. But haven't there been discussions here before about even those not being great? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
Occasionally a new bike looks nice (thankfully as I don't want to be a moaning old bastard) the new Z900RS for example. The ZRX and XJR did too 20years ago when new too. Honda seems to make a few reasonable looking bikes today that arnt all transformers. The CBR650, Africa Twin, CB1100 etc don't assault the eyes. |
All bikes which hark back to an earlier time. And I'm the same. I guess it's natural to like the designs we grew up with. The shorty rear ends do nothing for me either. Because of what I did grow up with, they look like something is missing. A nicely sculpted tail unit that flows from the lines of the rest of the bodywork is something I miss.
But today's look is the result of (sometimes) improvements in handling and function - frames with a main spar from headstock to s/arm pivot being perhaps the main one. Except for the loss of a tail unit. I'm not quite sure how that came about.
I'm sure the manufacturers would be disappointed to read comments about lack of engineering and design, as I think they will have put a lot of time and effort into this. They have solved many of the handling problems of those early years we remember, performance is generally considerably up - all the functionality has been improved (except perhaps for comfort - have they forgotten a human has to ride them?). Gimmicks and gadgets sometimes distract from these achievements I think, but nevertheless, much has been achieved over the years.
But aesthetics, well yes, I think they have suffered for it. Perhaps the exchange is worth it? I don't have much experience of recent models, so I'm not the one to say. It's just a shame we can't have both. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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How important are aesthetics?
It's like women, good aesthetics really enhance the experience.
I find most modern plastic covered bikes hideous. What I lust after are bikes that look like the old 1950s and 1960s bikes I started out on.
https://www.classic-british-motorcycles.com/images/52BSA-A10-R.jpg
It doesn't matter that an early 60s A10 is in every way inferior to a modern motorcycle from a technical standpoint. The A10 speaks to me in a different way. Nostalgia - mad or what? |
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https://cdp.azureedge.net/products/USA/HO/2019/MC/SPORT/CB300R/50/MATTE_GRAY_METALLIC/2000000002.jpg
My eldest son just bought one of these when he passed his DAS course. It rides really nicely and is highly maneuverable. Great performance from what is basically a 250 (286cc), but it looks weird to me. What was the designer of that fish tail bone rear end on? And the exhaust???? WTF!
I was a bit tempted to get one except when I looked at access to the top end, I couldn't see how doing the tappets would be anything but a massive pain in the arse, so I dropped the idea pretty fast. He loves it. Rides it at every opportunity and his car a rather sporty blue Toyota GT something or other just stands in the drive doing nothing. |
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I read with great interest all the moans and groans regarding the EU and all the ways of trying to get around emissions legislation by fitting de-cat exhausts, power commanders etc.. and wonder if all the complainers breathe the same air as me. The EU has many faults but surely if the human race is to have any kind of future on planet earth a large body has to make the big decisions on pollution. If vehicles don't run correctly then it's down to the manufacturers not EU legislators.
The Euro regulations regarding emissions, as far as I can see, are driving advances in technology and performance and at the same time making vehicles more fuel efficient and less polluting.
I've been following the recent announcements on the changes to the BMW Boxer engines - more CC's and Variable Valve Timing giving higher performance (HP & Torque) for less fuel consumption and emissions. Surely this can't be considered a bad thing?
Back to the original topic, Aesthetics? I like a bike to look good but beauty, so they say, is in the eye of the beholder. I've got a V-Strom so what do I know . |
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I read with great interest all the moans and groans regarding the EU and all the ways of trying to get around emissions legislation by fitting de-cat exhausts, power commanders etc.. and wonder if all the complainers breathe the same air as me. The EU has many faults but surely if the human race is to have any kind of future on planet earth a large body has to make the big decisions on pollution. If vehicles don't run correctly then it's down to the manufacturers not EU legislators.
The Euro regulations regarding emissions, as far as I can see, are driving advances in technology and performance and at the same time making vehicles more fuel efficient and less polluting.
I've been following the recent announcements on the changes to the BMW Boxer engines - more CC's and Variable Valve Timing giving higher performance (HP & Torque) for less fuel consumption and emissions. Surely this can't be considered a bad thing?
Back to the original topic, Aesthetics? I like a bike to look good but beauty, so they say, is in the eye of the beholder. I've got a V-Strom so what do I know . |
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Enduro Numpty wrote: | I read with great interest all the moans and groans regarding the EU and all the ways of trying to get around emissions legislation by fitting de-cat exhausts, power commanders etc.. and wonder if all the complainers breathe the same air as me. The EU has many faults but surely if the human race is to have any kind of future on planet earth a large body has to make the big decisions on pollution. If vehicles don't run correctly then it's down to the manufacturers not EU legislators.
The Euro regulations regarding emissions, as far as I can see, are driving advances in technology and performance and at the same time making vehicles more fuel efficient and less polluting.
I've been following the recent announcements on the changes to the BMW Boxer engines - more CC's and Variable Valve Timing giving higher performance (HP & Torque) for less fuel consumption and emissions. Surely this can't be considered a bad thing?
Back to the original topic, Aesthetics? I like a bike to look good but beauty, so they say, is in the eye of the beholder. I've got a V-Strom so what do I know . |
Well, nobody wants to breathe poisonous air, but you know what? The air in the UK is cleaner than it ever has been for over a hundred years right now. To read the green hype, you'd think we were all choking, but the actual data shows that particulates are down 20% on what they were in 1990 and nitrogen oxides are down about 50% and this at a time when we have people screaming about how thousands of us are choking to death... It's SHITE mate - pure left wing garbage.
All you need do is take a deep breath next time some cherished classic car comes by when you are on the pavement and you'll be amazed how filthy it is. Even my Euro 2 cg125 smells bad by comparison too anything remotely modern, but those old classics really stink the place out.... Then there are the two strokes and we all know what they were like.
Evidence:
" Emissions of nitrogen oxides in 2016 have fallen by 72 per cent since
1970, to 0.89 million tonnes." DEFRA NATIONAL STATISTICS
Page seven of this document. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/681445/Emissions_of_air_pollutants_statistical_release_FINALv4.pdf
There is a lot more in there and you can look as you wish. We are being sold a giant croc of shite on air pollution and deaths.
Check this one out which demonstrates that the supposed 40,000 premture deaths is just made up nonsense That is the conclusion from a Cambridge University statistics department which shows the origin of the claim is simply modeled on foreign data.
"Does Air Pollution Kill 40,000 people a year in the UK?
https://wintoncentre.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/does-air-pollution-kill-40000-people-each-year-uk |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 197 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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