CE Clothing and acceptable marketing practice.

[talkToTheHat]

I was of the understading that you could no longer sell an item as motorcycle clothing unless it was CE rated as such. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Yesterday a n00b freind asked me what I thought of his new jacket, which he was inder the impression was a decent piece of kit. It did indeed have CE all over the inside. On closer inspection this is EN 1621 elbow ans houlder armour. The "back protector" was packing foam.

Further disassembly of the jacket revealed a tiny label declaring the jacket to not be PPE and that the manufactureres or vendor could not be held responsible for any injuries.

I was under the impression that such a garment may not be sold in a way that impled its suitability for motorcycle use. A quick look at the online stores for some large UK vendors suggests that more than half their products sold as motorcycle jackets aren't.

What gives?
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[pepperami]

Trading Standards office = seek their advice.
Packing foam as a back protector??
Must say it does sound a bit ‘iffy’
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[Sister Sledge]

Unfortunately the CE these days can also mean 'China Export'. It's sh*t I know.

Look on evilbay for new fabric motorcycle garments and they look like thick waterproofs - they don't look tough to me.

I'm after some used leather trousers and would rather pay lotsa money for the right thing than something fashionable..

[thx1138]

it's quite common for jackets to have a bit of neoprene or something in the slot that will take a back protector, and come with proper elbow and shoulder proection,

the neoprene isn't supposed to be a protector it's just filling the void where the protector would go if bought separate

I usually take the neoprene out and use them to sit on when I'm hiking

Most my kevlar jeans don't have hip armour either, I've only got one pair with, and I bought them separate from the jeans.

[iooi]

[Analogkid]

[quote="thx1138]
I usually take the neoprene out and use them to sit on when I'm hiking
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Wow, sit down hiking, now that’s my kinda excercise 🙃

[TaffyTDM]

The CE thing and PPE disclaimer are two seperate issues

CE is adequate for consumer use. The manufacturer is washing their hands of providing "PPE" and putting that back on the employer as far as the HSE is concerned, for those that ride for work purposes.

In all likelyhood if Mr BigCorp pays out big bucks for his motorcycle riders to be given ppe jackets, he will get the same product with the label removed, but probably with some long term care plan/replacement routine

[TaffyTDM]

Also no new lines that arent being sold as CE are banned, retailers are allowed to clear their existing stock. So you may still see some lines, more than likely on the reduced rack

[talkToTheHat]

[Ste]

Where was it bought from and how much did it cost?