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PostPosted: 20:35 - 11 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
Apparently the official line behind all this is:
"Serving soldiers are not allowed to be affiliated with any particular political group. They may hold views in private but are not allowed to express them to remain politically neutral.
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Tommy doesn't belong to any political group!
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 11 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just leave these here:-

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PostPosted: 23:00 - 11 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checkmate.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 12 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:


They aren't political because they are there as representatives of an office (e.g PM) not party (Tories, Labour). Same thing when Trump visits the UK, he's not here as Republican leader or the guy from Twitter, he is representing the office of the US Pres.

Anyway the soldiers in Tommy's picture aren't expressing as view, they are just standing there.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 12 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting quite a battering from political shows, newsnight etc.
Thing is, they're more than happy to talk ABOUT him and what he's done to others. But they won't let him onto their shows

Can't thing why... Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy Robby and his treatment is nothing new.

He has/had the power to rock the boat a bit too much, so the powers that be are trying to shut him up. It isn't that the UK is too left wing, it's that the establishment wants to maintain order.

The same happened with Charlie Veitch (a lefty) ten years ago. Social media wasn't quite such a big thing back then, but it did exist, and through it he became a prominent figure in the Occupy movement across the UK, Canada and US. He had a real following. Then the authorities tried to shut him up and, after being unlawfully imprisoned a few times, he went oddly quiet. At the time it was all a "right wing fascist conspiracy, maaaan".

Now the same is happening to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, and it's a left wing conspiracy, maaaaan.

At least Charlie Veitch was a good guy though. Unlike Steve the convicted fraudster and known thug.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Tommy Robby and his treatment is nothing new.

He has/had the power to rock the boat a bit too much, so the powers that be are trying to shut him up. It isn't that the UK is too left wing, it's that the establishment wants to maintain order.

The same happened with Charlie Veitch (a lefty) ten years ago. Social media wasn't quite such a big thing back then, but it did exist, and through it he became a prominent figure in the Occupy movement across the UK, Canada and US. He had a real following. Then the authorities tried to shut him up and, after being unlawfully imprisoned a few times, he went oddly quiet. At the time it was all a "right wing fascist conspiracy, maaaan".

Now the same is happening to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, and it's a left wing conspiracy, maaaaan.

At least Charlie Veitch was a good guy though. Unlike Steve the convicted fraudster and known thug.


Charles veitch was a conspiracy nut who, after been taken to America by the BBC, to investigate some of the claims he'd been making about 9/11, once he'd seen the evidence he changed his ways. Which caused his fellow conspiracy nut to turn against him, thats why he went quiet.

The is a post in the infowarts thread further down the page.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:


This is what pisses me off with modern lefties. The arrogant assumption that you are automatically correct and good, and anyone who sees things differently is either stupid or evil, and probably both.


No, this is how you view "lefties". Lefties view you in the same way and it doesn't achieve anything.

The issue with the far right groups is it always seems to lead to violence which is why there is so much concern all over Europe right now.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Name any prominent far left wingers who are silenced in modern day Britain.
Plenty of far right are silenced or even banned from entering the UK or even Europe.

This is what pisses me off with modern lefties. The arrogant assumption that you are automatically correct and good, and anyone who sees things differently is either stupid or evil, and probably both.


Far left wingers?

Is this your way of saying Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a far right winger?

I thought he was a moderate guy who just wants the best for his country or something?
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:

This is how you view "righties". Left wingers are by far the nastiest whenever the two clash in Dover.

The far left is the new far right. The similarities with Nazi Germany is alarmingly close, from anti Jewish hatred, through to media control, fascist silencing of opposing views, branding anyone who doesn't agree as an outcast and programming youth into your ideology with far left control over education.


WTF Laughing

You really sound like a rabid conspiracy theorist here.

The UK government is right wing. Right wing. The left have no control over anything.

If the UK public is becoming too left wing for you, it's because they're sick of what the current right wing government is doing.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.

Actually you are partly right, Nazi Germany was built on a socialist model and actually did a lot of great things for its people.

Only problem was when Hitler focused too much on the 'Nationalist' part of 'Nationalist Socialist' and went all warlord genocidal.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who reads that and even remotely nods their head in agreement is frankly a complete idiot.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 13 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting for me to find this thread here on this forum. I did at one time consider TR a racist little mug with Napoleon syndrome. I have very little in common with him regarding upbringing or general lifestyle so little to relate with.

Not any more. The man has my respect for many reasons.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 14 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
mpd72 CPT wrote:


This is what pisses me off with modern lefties. The arrogant assumption that you are automatically correct and good, and anyone who sees things differently is either stupid or evil, and probably both.


No, this is how you view "lefties". Lefties view you in the same way and it doesn't achieve anything.

The issue with the far right groups is it always seems to lead to violence which is why there is so much concern all over Europe right now.


The persecution of Yaxley Lennon by police is not really about left wing action it is that he has shown himself capable of marshaling a large following of angry people against Islamic targets. It is about the likelihood of his actions leading to large scale civil disorder. In my experience the police are not very keen on hard left groups or hard left policies.

Yaxley Lennon being silenced in the media is a different matter and I think it is indisputable that the soft left mass of media outlets are dead against everything that people like him believe and stand for. Any political movement, be it the government of Hungary or a movement protesting about the abuse of teen aged girls by Pakistani heritage men in virtually every town in England is described as 'Hard Right'. They aren't hard right at all; but are people outraged at their world being turned upside down by people who do not share their world view on pretty much anything at all.

Of course one very bad result of Yaxley Lennon's activities and not really his intention I don't think was that many of the people who joined the EDL were rather too keen to act in an intimidating and hostile fashion not just to people like Angem Choudhuray but to any dark skinned person they came across. I'm not sure of the chronology but the EDL took a turn for the worse when Lennon was in jail and he said that was why he left it. If you stir up mobs, even without intending it, things can go bad pretty quickly. I think this is why he has had so much police attention. I don't think he can go anywhere in public without the rozzers turning up. This is probably illegal.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 15 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
It's clearly being kept quiet from most mainstream social media sites too. Not s sniff of talk of it on my Facebook feed.

This is the end for free speech in this country. If you criticise Islam or are perceived as "far right" by the far left, you get silenced by Big Brother.

What odds now that the establishment make him "go away" quietly?


Kept quiet? You're joking? Apparently he was the lead story on Newsnight last week and he's all over my Facebook feed, in fact I wish his self-righteous hate-filled supporters would sod off. He's done nothing to reveal the problem with Pakastani rape gangs, it was already revealed and they're being prosecuted. All he's doing is endangering their convictions and bigging himself up to the gullible.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
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Kept quiet? You're joking? Apparently he was the lead story on Newsnight last week and he's all over my Facebook feed, in fact I wish his self-righteous hate-filled supporters would sod off. He's done nothing to reveal the problem with Pakastani rape gangs, it was already revealed and they're being prosecuted. All he's doing is endangering their convictions and bigging himself up to the gullible.


His first conviction in Canterbury was for trying to expose 5 (Asians) who had gang raped a 15 year old girl! The evidence against them was damming but the judge in her wisdom thought they deserved to make bail.
Tommy decided to expose the gang as they had been let out on bail and were still running the pizza shop.
There are 6 schools in that area, and Kids were still using the place! How do I know, because its 5 minutes from my door! No one wants this kind of shit near them, hopefully it wont happen in your town. If it does, Im sure you would want someone to let you know what sort of people you are living amongst?
Their faith is unimportant to me, the fact they receive no media attention because of this I find offensive. And the fact they made bail and were allowed to keep working in that shop, just shows how shit our justice system is and it needs exposing!

And as for jumping on the grooming gang band wagon, hes been shouting about it for years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96elyZaxq8

Listen to Paxmans dismissive attitude!
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