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barrkel World Chat Champion
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Posted: 01:14 - 09 Oct 2018 Post subject: Hornet 600 |
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In an attempt to avoid the attention of the teens of Tottenham, I've switched my commuting machine from my highly desired SH300 to a Hornet. A 2009 ABS model in blue with aftermarket debaffled end can, and a fairly substantial screen.
I'd post a photo but I haven't taken one. This is not a machine I'm in love with, for calculated reasons.
Gearbox is a little bit dodgy (30k miles), steering head bearings are just about detectably groovy when filtering slowly, but apart from that it's fine. Fine.
But wow is it a dull motor. The Brutale has 50% more torque, but it feels like 3x. I'm back to the clutch-slipping revving launches I'd do on my ER6f, and it sounds quite aggressive with the exhaust, but it's the only way I can get it to move meaningfully off the line. It's so underpowered before you get to the brief bit of go at the very end of the rev range. It's hard to shift out of second in town or you're afraid you'll have no go when you need it. I swear, I think my scooter accelerates faster at 20mph than the Hornet does in 3rd.
I'm hoping the dullness means I won't be chased through Tottenham for some time yet. Time will tell.
(On torque: I believe the Hornet tops out at 60mph in 1st. The Brutale hits the limiter closer to 45mph, and the front pops up if you rush too much. If I have the bike long enough to get chain and sprockets, I might be playing with the ratios.) ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Posted: 17:18 - 11 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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I swapped from a 600ZZR which would pull like any thing in any gear to a 2001 Hornet
Took a little while to get used to it as there's not much torque low down, but it will accelerate in 2nd happily, just ride it like it's a 125cc and give it some revs while you get the feel of how it responds, it can be a bit grumpy at low revs and I presume yours will be similar. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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Oh it's lively enough once I'm going 40+mph and in a low enough gear for it to scream while it's at it. It's almost dangerous at traffic "nipping into gaps" speed though. I haven't had what I'd call scary moments so far, but I've certainly had "that could have been easier" moments.
It's true that it's unfair to compare it to the MV. The MV is just so fucking good. It's kind of nice to have them side by side so I can appreciate it more.
Riding it like a 125 with piles of clutch slippage seems to be the way to go until I get to play with the gearing. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Posted: 11:11 - 12 Oct 2018 Post subject: Re: Hornet 600 |
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barrkel wrote: | In an attempt to avoid the attention of the teens of Tottenham, I've switched my commuting machine from my highly desired SH300 to a Hornet. A 2009 ABS model in blue with aftermarket debaffled end can, and a fairly substantial screen.
I'd post a photo but I haven't taken one. This is not a machine I'm in love with, for calculated reasons.
Gearbox is a little bit dodgy (30k miles), steering head bearings are just about detectably groovy when filtering slowly, but apart from that it's fine. Fine.
But wow is it a dull motor. The Brutale has 50% more torque, but it feels like 3x. I'm back to the clutch-slipping revving launches I'd do on my ER6f, and it sounds quite aggressive with the exhaust, but it's the only way I can get it to move meaningfully off the line. It's so underpowered before you get to the brief bit of go at the very end of the rev range. It's hard to shift out of second in town or you're afraid you'll have no go when you need it. I swear, I think my scooter accelerates faster at 20mph than the Hornet does in 3rd.
I'm hoping the dullness means I won't be chased through Tottenham for some time yet. Time will tell.
(On torque: I believe the Hornet tops out at 60mph in 1st. The Brutale hits the limiter closer to 45mph, and the front pops up if you rush too much. If I have the bike long enough to get chain and sprockets, I might be playing with the ratios.) |
I had a CBR600f for 9 years, similar engine/power delivery and you are right in that it is a bit limp low down. However, on the boil on a nice road keeping it above 8k and using all of the the gears is imo one of the most enjoyable ways of riding.
The same gutless low range does get a bit testing on a commute though. 30mph in 3rd gear you aren't going to have any roll on power, so keep it in 2nd or use the gearbox. Getting away from the lights use more revs and slip the clutch more, ridden hard mine would lift the front (e.g. away from the M4 toll booth drag strip on the severn bridge), but you aren't going to do that if you pull away and stop slipping the clutch at 4krpm. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 191 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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