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bnp72 wrote: |
I don't know why I bother sometimes, when people just nit pick over wording.
I know 32-bit can only address 3.6GB, not all older machines are 32 bit though. Just to make you happy, maybe I should have written it as
"many older machines will only be 32bit hardware, so will be limited to seeing 3.6GB RAM. Some are 64 bit though."
Anything else you want to pick a pointless argument over?
What about Cucklio and his "if you upgrade from a 32 bit copy of XP to Windows 10 it will put 32 bit Windows 10 on".
Are you going to nit pick and tell him that you can't do an in place upgrade from XP to 10? No?
Why bother, the point I was making remains the same. It's not going to affect the advice given to the OP is it? Get over yourself. |
And yet I was apparently on enemy when I wrote that.
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Given how this conversation has gone, I'll just leave this here, it seems apt.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1BKPSGcxQ&edufilter=NULL
Also, I've found that since I've upgraded the RAM in the old Macbook (Intel Core 2 Duo), it is a lot quicker, but I am still limited to the software that I can install, due to the OS being stopped - On older hardware, you can't automatically get the newest version of MacOS.
After xmas, I will be in the market for a couple of SSDs - one 128GB one for the mac, and a bigger one for my laptop. If I get chance this weekend, I am gonna put that one back to Win7.
I've just bought the mrs a cheap laptop for Uni. Win 10, touchscreen. 32Gb eMMC HD, 4GB RAM, with a cheap Celeron processor. I wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole, but it isn't for me, and she wanted it - £130. ____________________ thx1138 wrote: Well if you had a car, I'd bet it would smell like urine had had drunken sex with vomit and made a poo baby.
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CBFcarl wrote: | Also, I've found that since I've upgraded the RAM in the old Macbook (Intel Core 2 Duo), it is a lot quicker, but I am still limited to the software that I can install, due to the OS being stopped - On older hardware, you can't automatically get the newest version of MacOS. |
Honestly that's one of the major drawbacks of OS X/macOS. With PCs you can install whatever you can find drivers for, even macOS They also don't tend to completely drop software support, you have compatibility mode etc..
CBFcarl wrote: | After xmas, I will be in the market for a couple of SSDs - one 128GB one for the mac, and a bigger one for my laptop. |
I'm still waiting on my uber cheap Integral drive to arrive (£13 ). I have the previous version which was £25, cheap at the time but now you could probably get a 240GB for that. |
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stirlinggaz wrote: | Hi,
sorry for causing any arguments, but im pretty sure i said in my op i would like to upgrade from XP to windows 7 (i liked 7) NOT 10 (i just cant get on with 10) prefereably.
does this make it easier & less likely to cause any more arguments. no?
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You'll still face the same barriers. Your laptop may have a 32 bit cpu, Win 7 drivers may not be available for it too.
We can carry on speculating, but as asked, if you can provide the full make, model name and number if there is one, we can check out if Win 7 is likely to work on it, whether it's worth it due to RAM restrictions and whether you'll need to get hold of a 32 bit version.
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mpd72 CPT wrote: | stirlinggaz wrote: | Hi,
sorry for causing any arguments, but im pretty sure i said in my op i would like to upgrade from XP to windows 7 (i liked 7) NOT 10 (i just cant get on with 10) prefereably.
does this make it easier & less likely to cause any more arguments. no?
cheers,
GAZ |
You'll still face the same barriers. Your laptop may have a 32 bit cpu, Win 7 drivers may not be available for it too.
We can carry on speculating, but as asked, if you can provide the full make, model name and number if there is one, we can check out if Win 7 is likely to work on it, whether it's worth it due to RAM restrictions and whether you'll need to get hold of a 32 bit version.
I upgraded an old Acer XP laptop to Win 7. All looked OK, until it turned out there were never any Win7 drivers for the USB controller. |
This is why I sent him to the Support pages, to see what was available for it,
The guy who has the Mac, 120GB SSD`s were £12 delivered this week, Hot Deals UK . . . . |
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Hi,
& there was me thinking I could get a cheap CD, stick it in & it would do all the work
Anyway it's an antique Dell latitude D505
Windows xp pro but only 32 bit sp3
That enough info?
Scrap?
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I wouldn't bother to behonest
Looking at the specs listed here - https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-d505/specs/
If those specs are accurate, Even if you could get drivers for it, it would run like a dog.
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I concur, if it runs alright I'd use it but I wouldn't do any internet banking on it Chrome dropped support for XP a while ago as did Firefox earlier this year iirc.
There's a workaround for POSReady updates, but when I tried it on a (similarly) old laptop* they just slowed everything down, I think it's getting dropped next May anyway.
*similar spec to yours actually but the previous owner had upgraded it to 1.5GB RAM... and it still ran like shit It didn't have a dedicated graphics processor though. |
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stirlinggaz wrote: | Hi,
You guys maybe think I'm expecting too much.
It's a free laptop. It works , been using it on chrome.
HOWEVER, i dont intend to play games, download music or anything technical.
I simply wanted it to use as a basic word processor with access to Google.
Everything else i can do on this fancy fone or my "good" laptop.
I certainly don't intend to spend 300 quid for something I don't need.
Just seen 2 new compatible 1gb Samsung memory boards for a tenner.
Can I not just stick them in.
Find a CD with Windows 7 for a fiver at market,
Then sorted, no?
Or am i looking at this wrong way?
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For that money I'd just buy them and try them. If nothing else you'll learn a bit more about computers.
I took an old laptop apart once, found a fuse that had gone and fixed it.
I plugged it in, hit the on button and......................
made magic smoke. Stank the house out but it was a bit of fun.
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Hi,
Thanks for all the replies.
1 last stupid question.
Market cancelled due to snow (literally a sprinkling of heavy frost )
In theory, if one wanted, where would one get a dodgy copy of Windows 7 (32) on cd/DVD that doesnt need product keys or anything?
PM me?
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Google suggests it will run Windows 7 but the graphics driver is an issue, you'll need to find the Vista driver.
As for Windows 7, Microsoft now only let you download the image if you have a key, but I can upload a 32bit professional* image for you. If the laptop can boot from a USB stick (some older ones can't) you can create a setup USB, if not you'll have to burn the image to disc... failing that I can pop one in the post for you Activating it is a few clicks with a special program, if we get that far I'll PM you with it
*apparently (google again suggests) you can't run the aero theme on that laptop
Also just a note, I'm fairly sure you can't upgrade XP to Windows 7 so you'd have to backup what you want to keep and do a clean install. There's also a SP2 update for Win' 7 which although Microsoft doesn't call it that, it does save you from installing a million individual updates, after which it's only half a million updates |
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Posted: 05:13 - 17 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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M.C wrote: |
Also just a note, I'm fairly sure you can't upgrade XP to Windows 7 so you'd have to backup what you want to keep and do a clean install. There's also a SP2 update for Win' 7 which although Microsoft doesn't call it that, it does save you from installing a million individual updates, after which it's only half a million updates |
Hi,
There's nothing on this laptop, so plan was to rip out xp & install 7.
I had seen Google suggests it would run win 7.
Hadn't thought of or got as far as graphics driver....
Worth trying a CD?
Scrap otherwise anyway, right?
PS : Reply like you are talking to child, or better still, an alien who has no knowledge of computers, then I MIGHT stand a chance
Cheers,
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How much RAM does your laptop actually have installed? Go to Computer > right click on a blank part of the window > select properties (hopefully I remembered that correctly ).
You'll see this:
https://www.askdavetaylor.com/0-blog-pics/windows-xp-control-panels-system-general.png
If it has 1GB (minimum for Win' 7) I'd have a go installing Win' 7, then if you get everything working upgrade the RAM. Also I might just be complicating matters here but I have a few* spare hard drives (is yours 40GB?), you could install Win' 7 on one of them, and if it doesn't work stick the old XP hard drive back in.
*SATA and IDE I'll have to check what yours is |
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Posted: 00:52 - 19 Dec 2018 Post subject: Firewire cards/video cameras |
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M.C wrote: | How much RAM does your laptop actually have installed? Go to Computer > right click on a blank part of the window > select properties (hopefully I remembered that correctly ).
You'll see this:
https://www.askdavetaylor.com/0-blog-pics/windows-xp-control-panels-system-general.png
If it has 1GB (minimum for Win' 7) I'd have a go installing Win' 7, then if you get everything working upgrade the RAM. Also I might just be complicating matters here but I have a few* spare hard drives (is yours 40GB?), you could install Win' 7 on one of them, and if it doesn't work stick the old XP hard drive back in.
*SATA and IDE I'll have to check what yours is |
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I was looking at it the other way.
Fit 2 x 1gb samsung memory boards, tenner brand new (1st 1 I seen on ebay) compatible with this laptop, THEN do the Windows 7 bit.
No?
EDIT its got 2 memory board slots but only 512mb currently.
Another stupid question but what the hell are "firewire notebook adaptor " & "firewire cards" used for nowadays? Or ever?
I'm guessing the po used them for the extra usb's & plugging in his video cameras (which I also got ) as they came with weird looking cables that run direct from cameras to firewire card.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 129 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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