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Posted: 21:41 - 06 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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Polarbear wrote: | TBH I'm so fed up with the whole thing and this 'discussion' is going the same way.
If you are a remainer, you welcome Mays fuck up and think that nothing other than a 'peoples vote' is the right thing.
If you are a brexiteer, you think we have had the leave vote and nothing should change that.
Nothing anyone says here is going to change your view.
All I'm going to say is the ones that come out badly in every sense are the politicians.
They instigated this with the referendum
They had no plan when the vote went leave.
Cameron walked away.
May shot herself in the foot with an election.
Her negotiations could have been bettered by a 4 year old.
Labour undermined her where possible when this was one time the politicians should be pulling together.
They have been so incompetent they (probably) have frightened a lot of leave voters into changing their minds.
May's plan gets kicked into touch and they won't allow us to leave with no deal whatever the referendum said but even they are not stupid enough to blatantly disregard the referendum so they are going to go to the electorate to bale them out with a new vote.
They hope.
It's got to the stage we might as well sit back and watch the overpaid ponces try to manipulate us into doing what they want again so stop moaning and do as your told plebs.
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You’ve hit the nail right on the head there.
Best post of the thread.
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Remainers are mostly just whiners crying about losing. I've not heard a single one propose a package of measures that address Brexiteer complaints about the EU, just demands about me me me I'm richer and more important than you. Their entire offer is what one Guardian columnist put it as "lets turn back the clock to when things were good for me, personally". Amazingly this went down like a lead balloon. This kind of contempt for working class people has completely poisoned the remain argument to the point that even if they can cancel Brexit they just dump tons of fuel on the fire they are hoping to put out.
As the remainers used to say "now is not the right time for a referendum on the EU". Maybe we should wait until things are more certain, then have a royal commission on a second referendum, and then in 2029 we can consider bringing forward legislation on rejoining in time for the 2032 general election.
B5234FT wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
He was talking about the rise of populist movements in the various countries of the EU. And he is not the only one in the EU to have suggested such. In my view, this means that the EU accepts that there is a problem that threatens its unity, but fails to accept any responsibility for such problems. Why are these populist movements growing? Are thousands of people across Europe waking up one day and thinking, "I know, today I'll join a populist movement, haven't done that before" ? Or perhaps - no, surely not?! - there are actually reasons why people feel like this?
Instead of trying to demonstrate that such movements won't be tolerated, why not address the real reasons they occur in the first place? If you are going to regulate these countries, you must also accept some responsibility. This means that EU leaders must sit at table with the leaders of these movements and listen to them, and must then come up with proposals to alleviate such grievances as they have. When we get to point when a majority of a member state's voting public wants out, isn't it time to listen? |
The heads of populist movements? Of course not.
The elected representatives of each individual country? Sure!
So really what we're saying is that in each and every European (probably every) country, the political leaders dont accurately represent the views of the majority? |
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You need to learn to respect ordinary people and stop racist hatred toward people who voted leave. Disgraceful. You belong in the basket of deplorables. |
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Posted: 04:27 - 07 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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Anyhow Brexit is literally dead now.
Leave "won" 1 advisory vote with fraud and lies and this will NEVER happen again.
MPs will vote down May's imaginary deal and probably at some point in February will just cancel A50.
You need to accept that and move on people.
Nothing to see here. Go home
Britain wants to stay in the EU now. It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas...everywhere you go
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Is that the same people who told us remain were definitely going to win the first time? |
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mpd72 CPT wrote: |
I think you’re mixing me up with another poster. Do you want to track back and pour your bile at the right recipient?
I believe it was someone else you were arguing with about the EU being deliberately awkward. Not that I disagree with them, I just can’t see the point you’re trying to make, because it hasn’t been one i’ve Talked of. |
Nope, definitely you who chose to disagree with the original point made by cdlxxvi:
mpd72 CPT wrote: | cdlxxvi wrote: |
It's a false assumption that EU makes Brexit difficult. |
This deal says otherwise.
£38BN up front and we still need their express permission to leave the customs union, negotiate any trade deals, or in fact actually properly leave.
We are still tied to their rules, regulations, fishing quotas, ECJ and they're now threatening to carry on charging us if they refuse, or are unable to agree a deal with us after the transgression period has ended.
What do you think they'll do? Honestly?
It's the biggest stitch up in history, I suspect May is in on it. |
Which I then questioned and you did your best to avoid answering.
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You need to learn to respect ordinary people and stop racist hatred toward people who voted leave. Disgraceful. You belong in the basket of deplorables. |
You cant be racist towards a group of voters who are of a variety of different different races
I havent said anything against voters on either side, as I've now pointed out twice, I just think the whole thing is daft based on the margin of error at hand.
It is you who makes the assumption that normal=working class=leave, I've said no such thing, largely because it's not reflected in the people I've discussed it with in real life.
Grow up. |
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Something I've noticed is a tendency for Brexiteers to play the inverse race card on BCF... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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The inverse racism card is played when the called calls out the caller for calling the called racist, to discredit the caller for calling the called in the first place. This works if the caller actually called the called, but doesn't if the caller called the called with justification or if the called claims that the call was made by the caller with no justification whatoever.
Does that further justify the problem with lefties? ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 15:13 - 07 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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B5234FT wrote: |
You cant be racist towards a group of voters who are of a variety of different different races
I havent said anything against voters on either side, as I've now pointed out twice, I just think the whole thing is daft based on the margin of error at hand.
It is you who makes the assumption that normal=working class=leave, I've said no such thing, largely because it's not reflected in the people I've discussed it with in real life.
Grow up. |
Actually remainers have been quite clear about the race which they consider Brexiteers to be. It's the state schooled white chicken factory worker singing "my ol' man's a dustman", and you sir, are a racialist. We Brexiteers, are defined by your side as a different race with vastly inferior intelligence, insight, wealth and life potential.
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Diggs wrote: | The inverse racism card is played when the called calls out the caller for calling the called racist, to discredit the caller for calling the called in the first place. This works if the caller actually called the called, but doesn't if the caller called the called with justification or if the called claims that the call was made by the caller with no justification whatoever.
Does that further justify the problem with lefties? |
He's a leftist and they consider whoever calls the other racist first to be the victor. Therefore, being aware of the rules of the game, I launched a preemptive strike. It's quite fitting as he is named B52-34FT |
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Posted: 15:39 - 07 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: | The inverse racism card is played when the called calls out the caller for calling the called racist, to discredit the caller for calling the called in the first place. This works if the caller actually called the called, but doesn't if the caller called the called with justification or if the called claims that the call was made by the caller with no justification whatoever.
Does that further justify the problem with lefties? |
I thought you'd dodge answering that.
You don't like being caught out do you?
I'll try again, what is inverse racism and why would it be any different to normal racism?
Is it because you assume that white people can't be subject to proper racism in the blinkered view of a true programmed lefty, so you see it as "inverted racism", not you know, just plain simple "racism"?
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Let me simplify it. The inverse racism card is played when a group thinks it is accused of being racist (as, according to you is the case here), so throws the accusation back at the alleged accuser in an attempt to make the alleged accuser appear racist instead (as has been done here).
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Fuck off foreigner ____________________ Be a REAL MAN! |
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Imagine bnp72 gammon actual racist face when we stop Brexit
It's worth it
Yes you can't be a racist for calling some people gammon, because gammon is a life choice you can ungammon.
Yes bnp72 is an actual real racists for calling names ALL bulgarians exactly for the same reason Farage is racist for doing a campaign against 2 whole nations bulgarians and romanians.
Race legal definition include race, nationality and citizenship.
So just kindly fuck off you dumb racist. Which is the major reason for Brexit - racism.
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: |
Actually remainers have been quite clear about the race which they consider Brexiteers to be. It's the state schooled white chicken factory worker singing "my ol' man's a dustman", and you sir, are a racialist. We Brexiteers, are defined by your side as a different race with vastly inferior intelligence, insight, wealth and life potential.
Also, neg ratings returned (again). Thankyou for your acceptance that I am correct
He's a leftist and they consider whoever calls the other racist first to be the victor. Therefore, being aware of the rules of the game, I launched a preemptive strike. It's quite fitting as he is named B52-34FT |
Ok, so you're accusing me of lumping all leavers into one group and then discriminating against them (which I havent done, and STILL isnt racism in any way) by lumping all remainers in one group, assuming I belong to them and then discriminating against them? I might think you're an idiot, but it's nothing to do with your race or vote, it's becase you cant discuss anything with any thread of logic.
I'm far from leftist, but again with the stereotyping and discrimination from you.
You seem to be projecting your own character traits onto others and then villifying them for it |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 140 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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