Renewing driving licence

[M.C]

My driving licence is up for renewal next month and I don't currently have a valid passport (so they can't use the photo from that). It seems my options are:
- go to the post office, pay £17 + £4.50 for them to take your photo
- say I've lost my licence, £20 and they'll send me a form asking for a new photo (as no electronic photo is available)

Am I right in assuming the form will ask for a printed photo? Does BCF still recommend 'losing' your licence so you don't lose entitlements?

[andym]

My PCV was up for renewal last year and I just included a short letter saying I refused to send them my old license because I didn't want them to lose any of my entitlements, and when I received the new one I would destroy the old one..... I've now got both.

As for the photo, just get an official that's known you for more than 2 years to sign it (doctor, police, solicitor, company director etc)... printed is fine as long as it's passport size and printed at at least 150dpi

[M.C]

I was hoping you wouldn't have to do any of that signature bollocks on a renewal (?). Respectable member of society or whatever, coppers, solicitors

[yen_powell]

[Polarbear]

[grr666]

Always lose, never send in. I have my last 4 still. Two paper ones, an expired plastic photo card and the current
plastic only version. I wouldn't trust the imbeciles at DVLA to wash a car never mind making sure the people driving them
are authorised to do so. That would take a well run department with knowledgeable staff, accurate record keeping and
using a bit of common sense as opposed to computer says no, bored, uninterested drones who stare at the clock waiting
for Friday afternoon so they can go into town to do the other thing the welsh do well.
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[Sister Sledge]

Have they not updated systems to be like passports yet?
I'm almost certain you can just take a phone pic of yourself and do it all online (passports) and once the new passport arrives you post the old one in.
I expect DVLA are still in the dark ages with this?
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[pepperami]

I still have my old paper driving license, I lost it and have since found it again after I had applied for the new plastic jobbie .

Whenever I correspond with DVLA , I always enclose a letter explaining exactly what I require along with the forms.
I also send it recorded delivery.

I don’t know if it ensures they don’t miss anything, but so far so good .
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[Freddyfruitba...]

<waves hand at the back> Can I just say - in 40+ years as a the owner of umpteen paper/plastic licences, vehicles, addresses, offences (well not umpteen of those), and genuine lost licenses (or those), I can't actually recall a single time where DVLA hasn't done exactly what it was supposed to?

Have to say, with the number of times I've used my plastic licence for ID purposes I'd find it an absolute ball-ache not to have one these days.
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[stinkwheel]

They used my passport photo last time I did mine. 100% online. I did not send my old one in, claimed it was lost and paid the extra.
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[M.C]

[bugeye_bob]

[yen_powell]

They are not that advanced yet, I'm sure they will ask for that eventually. In fact I have hired a few bikes and a car abroad this last few years and they still happy with just my old paper licence.
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[MCN]

Old licence is sent AFTER new licence is received so no need for the hand wringing snowflakery now.

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https://www.gov.uk/renew-driving-licence#more-information
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[kgm]

I renewed mine recently. Even doing a normal renewal you don't have to send your old license away immediately - you can retain it if you are likely to need it for some reason in the interim such as for a driving course. I didn't send them a letter or anything although the form may have had a tick box to say that you agree you will send it at a later date or something along those lines. Can't quite remember. In any case I got my new license back and only then did I send the old one away after.confirming it was still correct.

I have the misfortune of having to deal with the DVLA on a semi regular basis for work purposes. They are the single most awkward, bureaucratic agency I've ever come across.

[grr666]

[Andy_Pagin]

I just went to the post office and let them do it all. No problems occurred, perhaps I'm the exception?
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[M.C]

[winz]

I've changed address a few times in the last 4 years and always request a new licence. I've got a couple of my past card licences in my office after hearing about people losing entitlements.
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[temeluchus]

The DMV printed my licence in front of my eyes in Florida, no need to send anything anywhere....
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[Skudd]

As I have found to my cost and should have known better the first time, ALWAYS SEND ANYTHING TO THE DVLA BY REGISTERED POST.
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[M.C]

It turns out the post office do still do the paper forms, I somehow missed that I couldn't do the lost licence thing online for some reason, so I've sent my old licence off with the form, a new photo*, and a cheque for £17. Bets on what I'll get back and when?

*which doesn't need to be signed if you're renewing your photo/licence btw

[stinkwheel]

Interestingly. I recently had to do a GDPR request on my licence data because the code generating system was down and my f*ckwit employer turns out to have not had me on the company insurance policy since they took over nearly 10 months ago (but are providing me with a company vehicle, and taxing me on it), I pointed out that the person who comitted this cock-up is jointly liable for permitting if I get done for driving without insurance...

Anyway, here's the output. On DVLA headed paper. Note it has all the test dates and document references pertaining to them listed.

I wonder how that would stand up in court as evidence of having a licence should categories go missing. On the plus side, it is also free.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s7joavMz-PlYLEG1unQMryrIM0tgXfu3HA_JW9YX2FMjdFe7LTd4SsHtxGHNJisYbOcm0il7V_xvnfomuyZs5spJTSKty5oC6z1iOKID1UB4Or5EOiocigTNcJ7qTanAl-MIqWiy5g=w606-h873-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3gWpjK8Oq9ysQ9QEvd8RmiVtOqLLjrfYlGC613TMTwe1OiRrm3MqKA498xk2MnYwEtlMjaeuwdLrXzr2noiPXe4dOuLZZyk_Vsc8rmw8AYLNh8MNTS9eIt-nD9ARlyKfzK2OQTI93g=w524-h698-no
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[M.C]