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jclem
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: headlight issues on my daytona 650 Reply with quote

I went to take my bike out the other day to find that the low beam didn't work, but both headlights turn on when I switch to full beam. Could this just be a faulty fuse / relay or is it more serious. Any suggestions would be grateful.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what you say the switch is not giving a signal / feed to the dipped relay in one position only.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bulb is probably a dual filament bulb, which means the dipped beam filament bulb has blown maybe? Or it could just be the high beam relay is broken or not connected properly.

I had a problem like this recently with my VFR800 and it turned out that water had got inside of the left hand switchgear. I cleaned it out and coated it with dielectric grease and it was much better.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think your bike carries a Dip Relay and a Main Beam relay ,swap them over to see if the same thing happens , takes the faulty relay out of the equation
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks I shall swap the relays over and then go from there.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jclem wrote:
thanks I shall swap the relays over and then go from there.
cheers


You say both lights are working so how can it be a relay switch?

Also has this bike got twin headlights, one for dip and the other for main beam?
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
jclem wrote:
thanks I shall swap the relays over and then go from there.
cheers


You say both lights are working so how can it be a relay switch?

Also has this bike got twin headlights, one for dip and the other for main beam?


There could be a number of reasons. The OP could be seeing the sidelight bulbs (in both) and only the dipped in the left. The bulbs could be dual filament, with a main beam relay operating the main beam filament, or the Daytona 650 could have dual bulbs in one side for dipped and main beam?

I know my VFR800 has a single light unit with dipped and main beam bulbs in it, and that you can hear the relay clicking when you press the flash or flip the main beam switch. In my case my issue was dirt or water in the switch itself, but if the OP can't hear the 'click' it could just as easily be a dead relay, or the connection to the relay could have become loose. There are many reasons why it could be a relay, but from his description it doesn't sound like it is necessarily a bulb.

Although it would be worth checking to see if there are any bulbs that do not illuminate in the light unit...
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 13 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through a touch of reading through other forums i was planning to check the relays to see if the problem followed the relays to save ordering parts i might not need as well as am attempt to rule anything out. Being a complete novice i was hoping it was just a fuse. When both headlights worked but only as full beam i thought i could rule out bulbs as didn't know they could come as a dual filament and had made the assumption that one bulb was dipped and one was full like on my old cbr.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were mine I'd check the cheapest shortest lived part first.

The bulb.
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jclem wrote:
Through a touch of reading through other forums i was planning to check the relays to see if the problem followed the relays to save ordering parts i might not need as well as am attempt to rule anything out. Being a complete novice i was hoping it was just a fuse. When both headlights worked but only as full beam i thought i could rule out bulbs as didn't know they could come as a dual filament and had made the assumption that one bulb was dipped and one was full like on my old cbr.
fingers crossed


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PostPosted: 10:08 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look under my seat last night to check out the relays etc but found that the layout is different to the diagrams I could find. I could only see 4 relays. One different and then three of the same. The one different had the same code as the headlight code on my bike diagram and when I removed this the full beam then didn't turn on. Could the relay be dodgy so still makes the full beam and not the dipped beam work or is it that both dipped filaments in my now discovered dual filament bulbs both blown?
Being a complete novice Jaffa90 Im not sure but if I was to hazard a guess I would say that they are twin headlights
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

"""Being a complete novice Jaffa90 Im not sure but if I was to hazard a guess I would say that they are twin headlights"""

Some bikes have 1 headlight for dip and the other for high beam,

Does this manual help?

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/655999/Triumph-Daytona-650.html?page=22
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberkron wrote:
If it were mine I'd check the cheapest shortest lived part first.

The bulb.


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PostPosted: 12:05 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jaffa90 for bearing with and the manual! yes they are twin headlights that I have got so I shall be getting some bulbs on order. Any recommendations on best to places to buy?
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 14 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jclem wrote:
Thanks Jaffa90 for bearing with and the manual! yes they are twin headlights that I have got so I shall be getting some bulbs on order. Any recommendations on best to places to buy?


Order?

They'll sell them in dozens of shops any petrol station/motor factors/medium+ sized super market. I can personally think of 6 places in a 5 minute radius from my place that sell them.

If it is like my Speed Four they will be H4 bulbs. Personally I'd test the connector to ensure it is the bulb but I know how to do it and have a multi meter handy. Buying a new set of bulbs doesn't break the bank and will come in handy at some point
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 15 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i was a teen the engine had to be running for the headlight to work, later bikes had a switch to turn them on and off, even later bikes have lights on when turning the key.
Q, do some bikes have twin headlights (like cars) when turning the key come on ????????????
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 15 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
When i was a teen the engine had to be running for the headlight to work, later bikes had a switch to turn them on and off, even later bikes have lights on when turning the key.
Q, do some bikes have twin headlights (like cars) when turning the key come on ????????????


My Speed Four does the Daytona probably does too.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 15 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
jaffa90 wrote:
When i was a teen the engine had to be running for the headlight to work, later bikes had a switch to turn them on and off, even later bikes have lights on when turning the key.
Q, do some bikes have twin headlights (like cars) when turning the key come on ????????????


My Speed Four does the Daytona probably does too.


Thanks for the reply.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 17 Dec 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

with my Daytona lights are on as soon as I turn the key, no need to start the bike. The only light switch there is, is to switch between full and dipped beam.
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