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Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: |
The CND had a slogan, probably still do - dirty, dangerous, expensive. Still remains as valid as ever. |
CND? What has domestic/industrial energy production got to do with disarmament? Nuclear weapons are supposed to be dangerous
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chickenstrip wrote: | Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: |
The CND had a slogan, probably still do - dirty, dangerous, expensive. Still remains as valid as ever. |
CND? What has domestic/industrial energy production got to do with disarmament? Nuclear weapons are supposed to be dangerous
Campaign for Nuclear Destruction - you know it makes sense! |
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What's the problem with sticking nuclear waste on a rocket and firing it into the sun or something similar.
No, it's not cheap but then neither will electricity be when all our fossil fuel generators are shut down.
The only way renewables can plug the gap is with huge investment in projects like the Severn barrage, and no government is going ti invest that much or go up against the greens protecting nesting sites and the like.
https://www.reuk.co.uk/wordpress/tidal/severn-barrage-tidal-power/
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To my mind unless we reduce our need for commercially produced energy, whatever that may be, we are up sticky creek. In the future we simply won't be able to plug something in and expect it to work without it costing lots more than it does now.
Likewise we need to reduce our reliance upon goods transported over long distance relatively cheaply. We won't be running about in domestic vehicles on the scale we are now, nor will it be economic to transport high volume, heavy goods quickly by road because carbon-based fuel will be too expensive and a decline in its use will lead to a decline in the production of new vehicles, maintenance of existing ones etc etc etc. It will become a spiral, with the only oil-based transport left at the end that which has commercial viability (like a small engine in a large boat), or a bit of 'speciality' fuel for rich people to run classics.
We won't have to make use of the new generation of nuclear power stations beyond 2040 (my estimate) because use of electricity will decline as it becomes more expensive and the grid will decay to the point where it is uneconomic to repair.
What will grow however is localised CHP and this will continue for those with sufficient wealth and firepower to keep the starving masses at bay.
It is a gloomy picture, however we have a combination of factors unique to our period in time about to converge - overpopulation, global warming and the end of a cheap but environmentally destructive fuel source.
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Diggs wrote: | To my mind unless we reduce our need for commercially produced energy, whatever that may be, we are up sticky creek. In the future we simply won't be able to plug something in and expect it to work without it costing lots more than it does now.
Likewise we need to reduce our reliance upon goods transported over long distance relatively cheaply. We won't be running about in domestic vehicles on the scale we are now, nor will it be economic to transport high volume, heavy goods quickly by road because carbon-based fuel will be too expensive and a decline in its use will lead to a decline in the production of new vehicles, maintenance of existing ones etc etc etc. It will become a spiral, with the only oil-based transport left at the end that which has commercial viability (like a small engine in a large boat), or a bit of 'speciality' fuel for rich people to run classics.
We won't have to make use of the new generation of nuclear power stations beyond 2040 (my estimate) because use of electricity will decline as it becomes more expensive and the grid will decay to the point where it is uneconomic to repair.
What will grow however is localised CHP and this will continue for those with sufficient wealth and firepower to keep the starving masses at bay.
It is a gloomy picture, however we have a combination of factors unique to our period in time about to converge - overpopulation, global warming and the end of a cheap but environmentally destructive fuel source.
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Here we go again. More Liberal green fantasy.
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mpd72 CPT wrote: | Diggs wrote: | To my mind unless we reduce our need for commercially produced energy, whatever that may be, we are up sticky creek. In the future we simply won't be able to plug something in and expect it to work without it costing lots more than it does now.
Likewise we need to reduce our reliance upon goods transported over long distance relatively cheaply. We won't be running about in domestic vehicles on the scale we are now, nor will it be economic to transport high volume, heavy goods quickly by road because carbon-based fuel will be too expensive and a decline in its use will lead to a decline in the production of new vehicles, maintenance of existing ones etc etc etc. It will become a spiral, with the only oil-based transport left at the end that which has commercial viability (like a small engine in a large boat), or a bit of 'speciality' fuel for rich people to run classics.
We won't have to make use of the new generation of nuclear power stations beyond 2040 (my estimate) because use of electricity will decline as it becomes more expensive and the grid will decay to the point where it is uneconomic to repair.
What will grow however is localised CHP and this will continue for those with sufficient wealth and firepower to keep the starving masses at bay.
It is a gloomy picture, however we have a combination of factors unique to our period in time about to converge - overpopulation, global warming and the end of a cheap but environmentally destructive fuel source.
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Here we go again. More Liberal green fantasy.
Plasma powered horses? |
Nothing to do with Liberals or Greens. These are my own ideas.
Still waiting to read what your ideas are.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Here we go again. More Liberal green fantasy.
Plasma powered horses? |
Nothing to do with Liberals or Greens. These are my own ideas.
Still waiting to read what your ideas are.... |
You’ve heard them several times, just as usual ignored them.
Remember you claiming we grow electric, nuclear, fuel cells and hydrogen, on farms normally used for food in parts of Wales on a map of England?
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Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: |
CND isn't UKIP - They do have more than one idea |
It's all in the name as far as I'm concerned. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: | https://cnduk.org/campaigns/no-nuclear-power/ |
They're idiots. What does the 'D' in CND stand for? What is an 'armament'? Why don't they change their name? Why not call themselves Campaign for Unmaking Nuclear Technology? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Not wishing to reignite this topic, but this is for the benefit of anybody that thinks that we won't turn to alternatives to the internal combustion engine for freight in this country....
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
Diggs, you old romantic! Sadly, (and leaving aside the question of motive power,) industry won't relocate canal-side when the road infrastructure offers greater capacity, speed and convenience. I think if the 1960's Beeching Report hadn't destroyed the railway branch network we'd be in a much better position now with respect to freight transport, road traffic and local services. Too late now though.
Sister Sledge wrote: | We can't have nuclear power anyway - I live in one of those 'Nuclear Free Zones' or whatever bollox that is.
Not a single resident voted for that status and one day the signs were silently taken down. |
I think when CO2 and NO2 emissions were outed as bad for the environment, and wind and solar farms were getting a bad press, there was a period where some of The Greens began to think nuclear energy wasn't such a bad alternative. They seem to have backtracked but perhaps it's no surprise the country's only Green MP represents Brighton, which literally has a sea of wind farms to gladden the voters' hearts even if they won't power the town.
Biotechnology is the answer. We have a transport infrastructure and a fuel delivery infrastructure based upon liquid hydrocarbons. Oil companies know the remaining crude oil reserves are increasingly hard to reach so they are planning for their own future by investing in biofuels. Processes which use all manner of waste materials as feedstocks for micro-organisms to produce hydrocarbons are being developed. Currently they all have their own environmental difficulties as well as technological ones but I think biofuels will be the next step forward. No need to step back into the past.
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I agree with you about biofuels to a degree, but to produce a corresponding amount of biofuel to the amount of oil we use presently, we would have no land left to grow food. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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It isn't as daft as it seems in terms of location of industry, because the industrial revolution was originally water-powered, then coal-powered with the coal transported along watercourses. Much of the despoiled land and remaining industry in the UK is close to the canal and inland waterway network for this very reason. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 118 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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