No Log Book on purchase ??

[LearnerLEGAL]

I've bought my first bike - a 2nd hand Honda CBF125 and loving it.

Though, the shop I bought it from (a Honda retailer) said they couldn't hand over the Log book because of GDPR rules as it has all the old owners info in it.
Has anyone else come across this before?


They showed the log book to prove it existed but said they couldn't hand it over.
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[owl]

Sounds to me like they lost/don't have it and are making up an excuse, the info could easily be redacted.
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[weasley]

They're not supposed to give you the V5, just the new keeper's section (sec 10) and then either make the change of keeper declaration online there and then or post the old V5 off with the new keeper declaration made on it. You ride away with section 10 in your pocket as proof of keepership.

When I bought the KTM this was all done on a computer whilst we sat there - I then did the tax online whilst I was at it.
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[weasley]

[Ste]

[Teflon-Mike]

When you buy a road-reghistered motorvehicle; it has a V5 Registration Document detailing the registration details.

The vehicle 'keeper', responsible for paying the tax, should have that document.

When you go to buy a vehicle, the seller should make that 'full' document available for you to view.

So you can 'check' that the vehicle you are buying, matches what's registered; eg; if it says its 'red' on the V5, is the bike actually 'red'? if it says it's a Honda, it's not a Yamaha; you can match the VIN number on the V5 to that on the head-stock of the bike, to be sure it is that actual specific Red-Honda, etc etc etc...

The number of former 'keepers' is also recorded, along with the name and address of the current one, and the one before. So you may check the sellers 'Claims' its only had one very careful lady owner, and query the twenty three others, probably not so careful ones noted on the V5.

As far as Data-Protection goes, there's more chuffing 'personal information' in an efin telephone directory... but that asside....

If buying 'private' its another confidence check, that if the keeper's address is stated as say "22 Arcacia Avenue, Dunstable, that that is where you are looking at the bike and paperwork... not somewhere in Liverpool! Which probably aught raise spidey-senses!

If buying from a dealer... then obviousely wont match; take your chances...

But... you aught be 'shown' the V5..... AND more you fill out YOUR details on V5, and keep the "New-Keepers-Slip" tear-off from the bottom; seller is obliged to send the remainder of the V5 back to DVLA to change the registration details, from the seller's to yours, and then DVLA send YOU a new V5 with your details on it.

So, no, unlike in days of yore, when you got given the 'old' V5 by the seller, and it was up to you to send it to DVLA to get a new one with your details on it... the seller SHOULDN'T give you the V5 when you buy the bike.... just the New-Keepers-Slip tear off from the bottom.

And actually in their interests to send V5 off themselves, cos as said, the registered keeper, take note; its actually in big warning on the form itself, "Is not the legal owner"... just the person responsible for paying the tax.... so, you take V5 away, and DONT return to DVLA they would still get the tax demands and any speeding tickets etc you cranked up.... SO the seller keeps the V5 and sends it to DVLA to be sure that their 'responsibility' for the vehicle is ended...

All you get to keep is the 'New-Keeper-Slip' which has minimal info on it, like make, model, and colour, I think VIN no, that you can show an insurance company or plod etc, until the new V5 with your reg details on it pops through the letter box.

Borrox all to do with Data-Protection... that's the system as contrived by DVLA.... you should be shown the old V5 you dont get to keep it, you get a new one from DVLA when they process the change over details.

A-N-D a 'dealer' who presumably does this for a living, many times a week, REALY should KNOW this far better than I do, who's sold.... oooh... maybe five bikes in my entire life time, and riding career of 40 effin years!!!! So why they giving you blarny about Data-Protection?! DOESN'T really instill huge confidence.... but there you go....
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[LearnerLEGAL]

[mentalboy]

[Ste]

That's already happened.

[grr666]

So you can't contact the last owner anymore?? Who thought that was a good idea?
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[Sister Sledge]

If you were not given the green new owners slip which has been mentioned and your new log book doesn't show after 6 weeks, it will cost you £25 for a replacement. If the new log book fails to show up (after 6 weeks) and you actually have that new keepers slip then you can get a replacement for free.

This explains better:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-log-book
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[Polarbear]

Even email addresses come under this data protection crap. Theoretically you can't pass anyone's private email address onto someone else. You can give them the physical address though.
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[Johanna]

[Kentol750]

New v5 comes out to you without former keeper on it.
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