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Hi mate, just joined to post a reply to this thread lol
I passed 3 yr ago, also a 20nstone trucker
Just get the bike you want no matter how powerful it is. If you’ve been riding your ybf or whatever it is you have road experience and can control a bike. As for the power, the throttle goes both ways and the fear will keep to alive.
I got an mt09 tracer for my first bike in 2015. It absolutely scared me beyond words. The first time I went out on it after sorting my insurance the day I passed, I literally had tears in my eyes and I was thinking wtf have I done, I’m going to die and not see my kids grow up after 3 months of bumbling and nursing it around I started to tip it in properly and get on the power correctly, trail brake smoothly and just got better and better. After about 8 months I would go out with my mates who have been riding 20 years and almost keep up with them out in the twisties on their r1 /gsxr 750. I got rid of that last year and got a cheaper fzs1000. This bike is absolutely epic. Fast as an r1 but more comfortable than my tracer lol. I’d strongly recommend getting a mk1 fazer 1000. It’s the ultimate all rounder, I’ll never sell it |
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Stinka wrote: |
I got an mt09 tracer for my first bike in 2015. It absolutely scared me beyond words. The first time I went out on it after sorting my insurance the day I passed, I literally had tears in my eyes |
I had the opposite reaction - a manic grin plastered all over me mug (Kawasaki 750 Turbo as first big bike). But then, I'm stupid ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Travis Bickle wrote: | Stinka wrote: | My honest opinion on an old tiger 900 is don’t bother. Overpriced and likely to breakdown and piss oil out everywhere. I’d always buy a jap bike over an older triumph. Also they are very top heavy, especially with a decent amount of fuel in. If you want an adventure bike I’d consider a vstrom 1000 or xl1000 varadero before an old triumph. But I’d sooner have a bandit 1200 or fazer 1000 as they Handel better, go better and are comfortable |
Also, apologies for posting multiple times, but I was lead to believe that the Bandit is more of a sports tourer and the Fazer is more of a naked/street bike rather than an adventure??? |
The Fazer is a brilliant all-rounder - rag it, tour it, commute or just go for a lazy bimble. The fairing is reasonably effective - done plenty of motorway miles on mine in all weather with no major complaints in that regard.
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Ok I'll put that on the list of ones to consider. Someone said about the TDM900 also while officially not an adventure bike I think this is another decent upright all-rounder? Or am I wrong? ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Enjoyed reading this thread - but then, I've gone through this over the last 20 years and the honest truth is there is no perfect bike you can buy, and be happy with.
I'm not 20 st, but getting there and the one thing you possibly not considered is you weigh the same as two test riders! All those reviews are from people who think 80Kg is a bit heavy, so you are not going to get the same feedback on the bikes as you've read. Your weight is going to suck up the performance and handling more than you can possibly imagine.
For a first big bike, you need something 750 or larger - I would suggest a TDM900 or similar like a big VStrom . Its very comfortable for a fatty and light enough to feel controllable while still having the big number engine to impress your non bike riding buddies.
While a BMWR1200GS is such a popular bike, I wouldn't recommend it as a first bike. You need some experience to understand why people buy them, and its mostly because they are a good investment - ideal for being seen on and you get your money back at the end of the PCP if you don't ride it too much! The better bike is an ex police R1200RT - but its not cool, so people don't!
By today, I ride a very personalised SV650s - absolutely perfect for me, and not fast enough to lose my licence on, which would happen on a ZZR or a CBR or whatever.
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That's great thank you so much for your input. While power and torque has to be a consideration, especially with my weight as you have highlighted, I have realised that's not the ONLY thing I should be concerned about. All I know is the bike I done my DAS on was an ER6 and that seemed enough for me at the time however I want a bike I can grow into so as long as it's AT LEAST as fast/powerful as the ER6 (75bhp / 50ft-lb) I think I'll be happy so long as the riding style suits me (upright) and the fairings allow for a reasonable amount of high speed motorway mileage.
The Fazer has recently been bought to my attention as has the TDM. I've also noticed that some bikes like the Fazer 600 have as much power and torque as some 1000cc bikes so all things should be considered. Some people seem to be raving about the Fazer, my uncle included who has moved from an SV650 to a Fazer 1000 and was complaining about the comfort of the SV650 after travelling round Europe on it but apparently the Fazer is so much more comfortable on longer distances and a very good all-rounder. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Travis Bickle wrote: |
The Fazer has recently been bought to my attention as has the TDM. I've also noticed that some bikes like the Fazer 600 have as much power and torque as some 1000cc bikes so all things should be considered. Some people seem to be raving about the Fazer, my uncle included who has moved from an SV650 to a Fazer 1000 and was complaining about the comfort of the SV650 after travelling round Europe on it but apparently the Fazer is so much more comfortable on longer distances and a very good all-rounder. |
I went from an SV650 to the Fazer 1000 too, but i'd had many bikes before either. The SV was just me coming back to it cheaply after a couple of years sans bike. I took the SV on a week's tour of Wales, and it was bloody uncomfortable (bench-hard seat), among other problems which eventually put me right off it. And having had a good few other bikes, it was obvious the SV was only going to be a stop-gap for me.
The Fazer 1000 is definitely a big step up from the SV in every way though, just a much more serious bike. SVs really seem like bikes for novices to me. But your experiences (and perhaps tastes) are different to mine, so I would never tell someone this is definitely the bike for you - only you can decide that. But the Fazer certainly isn't the worst suggestion you could heed.
I've also ridden the Fazer 600 (FZS600), and it's a very good bike too. Just I've been used to large capacity machines, which suit me well generally. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | I went from an SV650 to the Fazer 1000 too, but i'd had many bikes before either. The SV was just me coming back to it cheaply after a couple of years sans bike. I took the SV on a week's tour of Wales, and it was bloody uncomfortable (bench-hard seat), among other problems which eventually put me right off it. And having had a good few other bikes, it was obvious the SV was only going to be a stop-gap for me.
The Fazer 1000 is definitely a big step up from the SV in every way though, just a much more serious bike. SVs really seem like bikes for novices to me. But your experiences (and perhaps tastes) are different to mine, so I would never tell someone this is definitely the bike for you - only you can decide that. But the Fazer certainly isn't the worst suggestion you could heed.
I've also ridden the Fazer 600 (FZS600), and it's a very good bike too. Just I've been used to large capacity machines, which suit me well generally. |
Thanks again for the helpful input. I might be able to squeeze some funds out of my business a bit sooner than originally anticipated so I've been looking hard at bikes on AutoTrader over the last few days. I know colour should really be the last thing I should be concerned with but I'm after something in yellow (and black) to match my riding gear so that has been in the search criteria. I'm looking at a 2002 Fazer 600 which looks quite nice and also if I step the budget up from £2,000 to £2,500 a 2009 CBF1000 appears in the search as well as a 2003 TDM900 which both also look quite nice. All three bikes get excellent reviews on MCN.
The Fazer is listed as a tourer on the advert but is a sports tourer according to MCN. Do you think this would be a comfortable and nimble bike round town?
The CBF is listed as a sports tourer on the advert and MCN but the handle bars look quite high to me. Do you think this too would be a comfortable and nimble bike round town despite it falling in the sports tourer category?
The TDM is described as an adventure on the advert but is a naked according to MCN but I'm assuming it would be ok for upright touring?
It's all so confusing!!! Of the three bikes the Fazer looks to be the more aggressive / lean forward position but everyone is saying how comfortable it is. Comments and opinions on all three bikes would be welcome from all. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Travis Bickle wrote: |
Thanks again for the helpful input. I might be able to squeeze some funds out of my business a bit sooner than originally anticipated so I've been looking hard at bikes on AutoTrader over the last few days. I know colour should really be the last thing I should be concerned with but I'm after something in yellow (and black) to match my riding gear so that has been in the search criteria. |
My previous one:
https://i.postimg.cc/jj09C9qX/DSCF6147.jpg
(paint job wasn't standard).
Quote: | I'm looking at a 2002 Fazer 600 which looks quite nice and also if I step the budget up from £2,000 to £2,500 a 2009 CBF1000 appears in the search as well as a 2003 TDM900 which both also look quite nice. All three bikes get excellent reviews on MCN.
The Fazer is listed as a tourer on the advert but is a sports tourer according to MCN. Do you think this would be a comfortable and nimble bike round town?
The CBF is listed as a sports tourer on the advert and MCN but the handle bars look quite high to me. Do you think this too would be a comfortable and nimble bike round town despite it falling in the sports tourer category?
The TDM is described as an adventure on the advert but is a naked according to MCN but I'm assuming it would be ok for upright touring?
It's all so confusing!!! Of the three bikes the Fazer looks to be the more aggressive / lean forward position but everyone is saying how comfortable it is. Comments and opinions on all three bikes would be welcome from all. |
The Fazer 600 I found comfortable, and also plenty nimble enough for town work. Plenty quick enough, and handle nicely too.
Never ridden a CBF1000, but from all I've read, I wouldn't personally have one, certainly not while the Fazer 1000 exists (or the 600 for that matter). I have known Fazer owners go to them, and come away disappointed. From what I read, they are an ok bike, but have that Honda thing of blandness, and don't deliver so well on the fun side - for me, I suspect they lack some oomph, especially in relation to weight.
TDM I can't comment on, never ridden one, and haven't ever looked into ownership. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | The Fazer 600 I found comfortable, and also plenty nimble enough for town work. Plenty quick enough, and handle nicely too.
Never ridden a CBF1000, but from all I've read, I wouldn't personally have one, certainly not while the Fazer 1000 exists (or the 600 for that matter). I have known Fazer owners go to them, and come away disappointed. From what I read, they are an ok bike, but have that Honda thing of blandness, and don't deliver so well on the fun side - for me, I suspect they lack some oomph, especially in relation to weight.
TDM I can't comment on, never ridden one, and haven't ever looked into ownership. |
Thank you my deliciously tender feathered fowl. How much was the paint job? I guess I could always remove the yellow criteria to vastly broaden my options and look to get a paint job done at a later date. Yeah I have heard that about all Hondas in general being bland but very well refined, well built and reliable. I'm not sure the blandness would bother me that much. Performance is going to be very important to me as well as being able to much through motorway miles comfortably as well as being capable and comfortable round town AND through the bends. I'm not after superbike handling through the bends, just something that is capable enough to get a bit of pleasure from and not feel like I'm riding a tank.
The MCN review on the CBF says it's got a bland appearance but I disagree. I think it looks sweet. I think the TDM definitely looks boring like an old man's bike LOL. I do like the look of the Fazer, not that looks are important to me and that certainly wouldn't put me off buying the TDM. Like I said maybe I'll search for all colours to broaden my options. How much should I expect to pay for a paintjob? ____________________ Must Go Faster
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