Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


How long has biking got?

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Riejufixing
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Jun 2018
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:04 - 12 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Of course that will be a huge problem.

People in flats. People with no drives. Even modern housing estates are built with only 1 car parking places. The roads are a free for all for parking.


My idea of a long time ago was to have standard-sized batteries. You'd take your car in to the "battery station", and have your batter(y|ies) changed for charged-up ones via a machine. A micra would take perhaps one battery, a bigger vehicle would take more batteries. The cost would be: operating cost for the station, cost of fuel, surcharge per battery for replacement when the batteries fall below required standards. Used batteries would be checked and recharged at the station.

Still that's not likely to happen the way things are going...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:28 - 12 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistake - Ignore

Laughing
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition


Last edited by Polarbear on 15:30 - 12 Jan 2019; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:29 - 12 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Of course that will be a huge problem.

People in flats. People with no drives. Even modern housing estates are built with only 1 car parking places. The roads are a free for all for parking.


My idea of a long time ago was to have standard-sized batteries. You'd take your car in to the "battery station", and have your batter(y|ies) changed for charged-up ones via a machine. A micra would take perhaps one battery, a bigger vehicle would take more batteries. The cost would be: operating cost for the station, cost of fuel, surcharge per battery for replacement when the batteries fall below required standards. Used batteries would be checked and recharged at the station.

Still that's not likely to happen the way things are going...


Standardise batteries sounds good but in reality there is fat chance of Tesla, Renault and Nissan etc. agreeing. If they did it would be out of date before it was even set up and we would be locked in to redundant technology.
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Robby
Dirty Old Man



Joined: 16 May 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:08 - 12 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea of a standard battery pack has been kicking around for a while. It's one of those problems that may need to be fixed to persuade people into electric cars in the future. The requirement is a long way off, because electric cars are still sold in small numbers to early adopters. There are also other methods to persuade people into electric cars, like banning sales of fossil fuel ones.

It doesn't really matter what the car manufacturers want, they aren't making the batteries. If Samsung, NEC and Panasonic decide to go down that route, it will happen. It will take years, involve compromises, and end up with two or three standards, but it will happen.

Of course, there are other factors to consider. Safety and liability are the big ones. Do I really want my battery pack being removed every 400 miles, what if it isn't refitted properly? What if the machine removing it makes a mistake and drops a 200kg battery on someone.

We may just make lifestyle adjustments, and find a way for most of us to take 40 minutes out every 400 miles of driving.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mentalboy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 05 May 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 02:48 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: How long has biking got? Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Popped in to a local dealer today, at a loose end, just for a natter.
He said he reckons the bike trade in this country has about 10 years left in it. Sad thought. What does BCF reckon?


Should someone drop Aaron Adams a line and let him know that Rainpal might only have a short lifespan?
____________________
Make mine a Corona.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Jewlio Rides Again LLB
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 03:21 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Ste wrote:
Maybe he was trying to get you to buy something rather than using his business as somewhere to go for a natter when you're at a loose end. Razz


Me, buy something?!
If he can't tell that's not going to happen by taking one look, he's got no business running a business Laughing

It was a one-off visit anyway, just thought I'd have a gander, see if he had anything interesting in. He didn't, not that caught my eye anyway Sad


I popped in FastLine recently, was very disappointed. I recall him being on the main Street in Preston, big building with new and used bikes, with a good sprinkling of imported 400's, 250's etc at reasonable-ish prices.

Now he's all about expensive stuff, a handful of very expensive 2t's, and not much else. Sad how I long to find a reasonably priced 250 Hornet.
____________________
Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
HAHAHA HAHAHA Blew Chilly MyCrowSystems
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stevo as b4
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:18 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol!
So you go into a dealer that's known to specialise in rare grey imports, nothing like mainstream new/nearly new bikes, and your looking for an incredible bargain on a 250?

Anyone would think that the grey import boom was happening now, not 20+ years ago, and that the Japanese were still turning out expensive to make quality 250's like they were fake coins, and couldn't get rid of them fast enough, instead of wanting them back for themselves now. Rolling Eyes

If you had any sense and was looking specifically for bargain bikes, you'd be looking at official UK bikes, they have flooded the market with recently and maybe modern big sports bikes as people want to join the super naked and adventure bike clubs, and just want rid of their irrelevant 200bhp uncomfortable mistake.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

chickenstrip
Super Spammer



Joined: 06 Dec 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:15 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Lol!
So you go into a dealer that's known to specialise in rare grey imports, nothing like mainstream new/nearly new bikes, and your looking for an incredible bargain on a 250?


For me, it's nothing to do with looking for rare bargains to buy. I really shouldn't treat dealerships as museums, hoping for interesting and different stuff, but that's all my visit was about. In my defence, as I mentioned previously, this particular one did used to have an interesting collection in the showroom.

I'm no indicator of a trend. I'm just skint. But if I had money, I have to say, there wasn't anything there that would pique my interest - money would not have been exchanged. It doesn't help that he dropped Yamaha, but then, I understand why he did - apparently they started to do what Honda did some years ago in trying to dictate how dealers should run their showrooms. It just creates resentment from those who have been in the business and doing ok for years, thank you.
____________________
Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Jewlio Rides Again LLB
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:17 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which part of the 250 Hornet don't you understand?
____________________
Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
HAHAHA HAHAHA Blew Chilly MyCrowSystems
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

chickenstrip
Super Spammer



Joined: 06 Dec 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:29 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Which part of the 250 Hornet don't you understand?


Who, me? Everything! Laughing Like, where's the power band? Where are the clouds of aromatic 2T? Sad

I dunno, they might be fun to ride for all I know.
____________________
Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

M.C
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:41 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
how I long to find a reasonably priced 250 Hornet.

You're a bit late on that one Smile I was after one for my first biggish bike years ago but they were expensive then. I can't even see any for sale now Neutral
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stevo as b4
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:57 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was my point. Ok it's not a rare Dry clutch, fully adjustable suspension, dripping in Magnesium SP type of 250, but do remind me of exactly how many Hornet 250's they sold new in the UK? Laughing

You don't go Grey today if it's a bargain bike your after, it's 15-20years too late. You want a bargain then look at UK bikes that were sold in their 1000's and fairly recently.

Want a 250 Hornet, well search far and wide and pay the price when one turns up, otherwise you'll have about the same chance as finding a cheap RG500.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:31 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:

It doesn't really matter what the car manufacturers want, they aren't making the batteries. If Samsung, NEC and Panasonic decide to go down that route, it will happen. It will take years, involve compromises, and end up with two or three standards, but it will happen.


Of course it does, they are paying for it. If one manufacturer won't make it, another will.

You only have to look at things that use batteries now. The only battery operated power tool systems that uses interchangeable batteries I know of are Ozito and Einhell (both chinese rebranded stuff), all the others are proprietary.

Phones all use different batteries.

How many different lead acid batteries are there made which should be pretty easy to standardise..

And as I said before, once they have a standard they are locked into that system. It's no good building an automated changing system only to have battery technology overtake it before the changing stations are even built.

Then you have the 'I've got a brand new car/battery that does the stated 200 miles, I don't want to change it for an old one that only does 150 miles. Especially if it drops below the cut off level when I have it and can't change it at the station.

Too many impossibilities for it to work unless you get rid of private ownership.
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

M.C
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:47 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
That was my point. Ok it's not a rare Dry clutch, fully adjustable suspension, dripping in Magnesium SP type of 250, but do remind me of exactly how many Hornet 250's they sold new in the UK? Laughing

You don't go Grey today if it's a bargain bike your after, it's 15-20years too late. You want a bargain then look at UK bikes that were sold in their 1000's and fairly recently.

Want a 250 Hornet, well search far and wide and pay the price when one turns up, otherwise you'll have about the same chance as finding a cheap RG500.

We're getting a bit off topic but all the ones I saw were ~'96 models, even though I believe they were in production until 2006 or something(?). I assume when the 600 came out over here they became less appealing? Or generally grey imports dropped off.

When that lottery win happens Praying it'll be in the container of bikes I source from Japan.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Jewlio Rides Again LLB
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:51 - 13 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Which part of the 250 Hornet don't you understand?


Who, me? Everything! Laughing Like, where's the power band? Where are the clouds of aromatic 2T? Sad

I dunno, they might be fun to ride for all I know.


Not you, must have overlapped on the posting. Think they have an 18k redline? My Mrs had one as her first bike back after time away, really raved about it.
____________________
Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
HAHAHA HAHAHA Blew Chilly MyCrowSystems
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 5 years, 94 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Page 4 of 4

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.08 Sec - Server Load: 0.2 - MySQL Queries: 17 - Page Size: 100.8 Kb