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Posted: 19:46 - 05 Nov 2018 Post subject: New Rider Stupid Question |
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Evening Gents
31, had a full license since 17, always wanted to get my bike license but I know what I was like back then, would of been an idiot, then with work commitments and kids just didn’t get round to it. Just passed my mod 2 and got my license. I was toying with bikes cc, I actually decided on a 57 plate Yamaha fz1, it was such good value for money and Kawasaki where I did my DAS course gave me a fabulous deal, such a pleasure to ride, I am very cautious that it’s a powerful bike, I take it very steady and keeping it to rides in the dry for now, I’ve not let that throttle out yet, I have gone full throttle on the Kawasaki z650, what can I expect if I did on the fz1 and how can I ease my self into that power without getting caught out. All this being said I have not brought this bike to open up everywhere, I chose this because it’s more upright, I didn’t want a race bike, and also I’m 18 stone, a 6000cc just felt small riding it. |
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Posted: 21:34 - 05 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Yeh, it is just about getting used to the bike, use the power on straights giving yourself ample time for corners.
Speed is about being smooth, not fast, it'll come with time.
If you scare yourself, you've overdone it ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
They're also on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Focus-Rider-Training/196832923734251 |
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First bike? 150bhp?
I was about to list better suited bikes, but I won't bother. That bike will hold you back while you learn though in my opinion. |
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Twist of the wrist is a great bit of learning. I've watched it several times. |
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bacon wrote: | First bike? 150bhp?
I was about to list better suited bikes, but I won't bother. That bike will hold you back while you learn though in my opinion. |
I only got my license when i turned 27. Allready with something inside my brain than wind. And my first bike was a R6... its not the proper bike to start, i didn't like it much, at first ( too wild, with a very pointy engine ), and it really scared me sometimes. But i loved the bike, i spended lots of time geting used to it and it was heartbreaking when i had to sell it, because of the expenses of having a wife and kids, and house, and cars...
Just go slow, dont mind what other people say ( and they will say you are slow, you are afraid of the bike, you are a chiken ), learn your limits ( dont try to learn the bikes limits, they go way, way, way further than yours ) and enjoy the bike. With time, it will be like an apendice of your body and mind. |
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bacon wrote: | A sports 600 is difficult to a new rider for different reasons though than a 150bhp upright bike. I went the 600cc IL4 route as well, cbr600fs, it was the seating position more than anything that made it more difficult when compared to the training bikes, it was much more leant over etc.
The power low down was quite manageable for a new rider if you kept the revs low, obviously when you take the revs up it felt fast as fook.
An r6 would be the same, bugger all torque/power until the top end and a sporty riding position.
Where as the fz1, power and torque throughout the rev range, what will happen when he's 50 pencng a roundabout in the wet? Sorry. You'll never convince me a 150bhp fz1 is a good starter bike. |
I didnt say that. The ideal bike to start would be a lookalike of the one you used in lessons, no doubt about that.
Still, with patiente, time, brains and caution, you can use it as a starter bike. Just take your time, dont do things in a rush. I just gave my example, i started with a R6, had it for 7 years, with some scary adventures, but without any crashes. All the times i got scared, it was because of me, not because of the bike.
Like i said, not the right one, but anyone can use it as a starter bike, if we understand that is not a toy.
In Portugal we have a saiyng: What goes fast, can go slow. What only goes slow, will never be fast.
So, if you like the bike, want to keep it for years and dont have the money to trade bikes as you gaign experience, just buy the one you want and respect it. |
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meh. you'll be fine.
the throttle goes both ways. just don't try to be a hero in the wrong places, and nothing bad will happen.
my first real big bike was an R6, and i loved every minute of it.
enjoy. ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
Current - 2002 Aprilia RSV1000R & 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R |
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I've had a throttle pinned open on an fz1 in top gear, I was doing about 150-155 and it was still pulling a little. Really it's not difficult to do in a straight line.
the fun and games would begin, if you were at about 6-7k revs and then really twisted on the throttle hard, your nice litre bike takes off like a screaming banshee
fast enough for me, much faster bikes around of course, as I found out at Santa Pod though I think the fastest I got then was sub 140 |
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Johanna wrote: | Hmm... It's all well and good to say a fast bike can go slow, but there is some merit in having a bike that isn't *too* fast. I would say I'm quite sensible and cautious most days but sometimes I'm on a nice road with my CBR650F, come up behind someone and am in such a good mood that I twist that throttle and zoom past them while laughing and then that corner is much closer than I thought because I'm going stupid fast... and I'm braking hard to take the corner at a sensible speed. Then I think: "Right - I'll learn from that." And I do learn, but those people who've been riding for years - they've made these mistakes already. I wouldn't want a bigger bike at the moment. Imagine the mistakes I could make. I'm glad for all my previous experience on a 125 too. |
Everibody makes mistakes, thats normal. I start riding when i was 16 ( i'm 43 now ) and i still make mistakes. The most stupid and dangerous were made in 50 and 125cc, when i was younger, and i got 4 or 5 trips to the hospital. Of course, if i made those mistakes with a big bike, i probablly wouldn't be here to tell you.
But he's a grown man, 31 years old, probably with family... he's not a kid, anymore.
Bottom line, as groovylee said, dont be stupid, dont try to be a hero, take care of your life and the life of others in the road, remember you have family to come home to and you will be fine. |
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That was posted back in July around the same time I was passing my DAS. Have you killed yourself yet? I haven't got my first big bike yet I'm just wondering how much longer I've got to expect on this mortal coil. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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It's great except whenever I go over the brow of a hill quite quickly I usually take off. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 102 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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