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Can we all just chill the fuck out and all agree that Bhud is just a knob and leave it at that?
I'm not sure about that point about younger people having more disposable income though. When I was in my late teens / early twenties I really struggled to buy the things I wanted. Every week just seemed to be a struggle to pay the rent and put food in the cupboards (I started a family at a young age), but now I can pretty much buy anything I fancy, even if a couple of months are required to save etc. Like some have said once you get past a certain point in your life it's probably a choice of what you choose to prioritise (a mortgage or a brand new car every 6 months on PCP, or both, or expensive holidays, or all three, most of us live to our means, just a question of what you choose to spend it on). ____________________ Must Go Faster
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A thread on bike snobbery has turned into a discussion on just snobbery in general LOL. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Polarbear wrote: | Surely renting is as expensive as a mortgage in a lot of cases.
I know people who rent because they can't save enough for a deposit. If there were those 95% or even 100% mortgages that were around when I bought my first house they would be on the housing ladder, paying less than they are now in rent.
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Ignoring London where the average deposit is 90k or something ridiculous, the can't save for a deposit brigade annoy me. I saw on the news a couple with a combined salary of 90k claiming the same thing... they're just bad with money
A mortgage is in most cases cheaper, a pal pays ~£320 per month for a 3 bed house (up north), a really crummy 1 bed flat would cost the same to rent. His deposit was 15k iirc, however he's probably put the same into improving the house which you obviously wouldn't do with a rented property, so that's 30k less to spend on bikes and cars
It's more of an issue in the south, where a single person on a normal salary, with a healthy deposit still won't be able to buy anything other than a shoebox. They tend to live with family, in shared houses, with a partner (for a bit) and therefore tend to have more disposable income. |
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Travis Bickle wrote: | A thread on bike snobbery has turned into a discussion on just snobbery in general LOL. |
Probably because a snob is a snob - they're likely to be that way about everything. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MarJay wrote: | Bhud wrote: |
Well I tried to make it crystal clear. I can afford any bike I like but I'm happy with the one I've got, because I don't blow my cash on shit I don't need to impress people I don't know. If someone wants to point their finger at my bike and say I'm poor, that's fine with me but it would be an inaccurate belief on their part. |
In which case you TOTALLY missed the point of the post you quoted, because I took that as "How can you take the piss out of anyone on any bike? They could be rich, sure, but they could be on minimum wage but desperately want to ride, so they have a Hyosung GT250 or whatever it is."
I don't think he's being snobbish, I think he's trying to put down the snobs. I think by saying everyone over 30 has 15k of assets or investments is incredibly short sighted, and dare I say it snobbish. |
MarJay - you interpreted my post correctly!
As for the remark Bhud made about people over 30 having that sort of money to spend; I don't think this is the case at all these days; from my observations I think that the housing market has actually emptied people's pockets of spendable cash (let's not get drawn into a housing affordability over the years discussion though!). Even if they do have it, I suspect most will be keeping it for that roof that needs replacing soon, when they buy their family home etc. - I don't think I know anyone of my age (early 30s) who has splurged that kind of cash on something other than a house. Personally, the concept of spending that kind of money on a motorcycle leaves me reeling . . . but that's me, others may think very differently. ____________________ TG. |
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Coming from someone who bought his council house, which they undervalued at the time, plus gave us a larger discount than we had even paid in total rent since day one... I don't believe it's right that they are selling off council houses. That's certainly not helping. It's all well and good saying they're building more but all they're doing is replacing the ones they're selling and not actually fixing the problem. Like others have said, my mortgage now is less than my council subsidised rent was before we bought it and we walked straight into about 45% equity from day one. Disgusting really, goes completely against my politics. But each for their own. I'd have to have been some sort of cunt to turn it down! If I'm not going to look after number one no other fucker is! ____________________ Must Go Faster
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As you're new here I'll explain BCF's position on the matter:
- RTB = fine despite the massive government (so taxpayer) subsidy, the removal of revenue or cheap accommodation for those on benefits
- council housing = bad, anyone living in one is massively subsidised somehow (coz cheaper innit), they should all be burnt down preferably with the gimmedat occupants inside, and we should continue spending a fortune on housing people in private rented accommodation
I don't blame people who bought their houses under RTB, it's a great deal, I blame governments who had the policy and more importantly didn't build anymore. The whole reason rent prices are so high and we have such a high housing benefit bill is due to a lack of social housing. |
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Yuppies probably had a good time. |
That was the 80s name for snob.
There were some very good bikes in the 80s though ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 68 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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