Bleeding hydraulics or "I fucking hate this clutch"

[stinkwheel]

Doesn't seem to be much wrong with the amount of movement you're getting on that pressure plate.
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Fizzer Thou]

I have a Honda CBR1000 clutch master cylinder on my FJ1200 and where the unit points upwards then,as others have suggested,air gets trapped.

https://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/Rhencullen5/FJ1200/20160607_205644_zpss8102caj.jpg~original

Unless you have a banjo bolt with a bleed nipple in the end,then I found the easiest way to bleed the master cylinder without touching the slave cylinder was to arrange the left handlebar to point downwards slightly.Then,with the cap off the master cylinder just pull the clutch lever in just a little and then let it go slowly.If you see lots of tiny air bubbles bleed to the surface,keep doing this until no more appear.

This works just as well on the brakes
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[ThatDippyTwat]

I'll have a go at angling the cylinder tomorrow. I'm ordering a bleed banjo for it rather than pissing around like this every time.
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[jimspeed]

I would have thought the amount of movement you have there on the clutch plates is enough to disengage it, what's it like with the engine running ?
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[Enduro Numpty]

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[Grubscrew]

Whilst you are doing that ,tap lightly with a small hammer the handle bars you may find it dislodges a stubborn bubble.
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[ThatDippyTwat]

I should have a bleed banjo here in a day or two. I have a hide hammer I can use for tappy tappy purposes. If that doesn't work, I'll be trying moving on to trying Voodoo and sacrificing one of the local scrotes, or the scrappy.

Something is wrong. It's very, very difficult to paddle the bike with the lever back to the bars. I need to really push to get it to move at all. Yeah, it's a lump oif a bike, but it's never been that difficult to move it about in 1st with the clutch in. For that reason, I don't fancy knocking her into gear with the motor running, for obvious reasons. I'll see if I can weight the front down on the centrestand enough to feel happy giving it a go.

Assuming I can get it sorted, brake will be having a bleed banjo installed next time they need doing.
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[stinkwheel]

[ThatDippyTwat]

[Meatybeaty]

Hope that bleed banjo comes sooner than hoped, it does get frustrating when something like this happens, but keep the faith

[stinkwheel]

[ThatDippyTwat]

We'll give it a crack tomorrow. Battery needs to charge, she's been stood for a bit.
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[andym]

Have you clamped up the slave cylinder yet?

When I done the clutch on my VFR I was having the same problem until I held the piston in the slave cylinder with a G-clamp, after that it took a couple of attempts to get the lever solid.... that was about 5-6 years ago and never had to adjust it once yet.

Also the bleed banjo bolts are a bit crap, because I was told that I definitely had air in the system with my ninja etc.... I fitted one and not a single bubble of air came out, it ended up it was at least one of the pistons that was sticking that was the problem.

[Tankie]

Take the master cyl assy off the bars, hang vertically so the bubble can migrate out of the hose through the banjo into the cyl then into the res. also remove the slave cyl so you can pump it out a bit further , hang the master vertically again and push the slave piston back in in one hard push to displace the bubble
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[stinkwheel]

I will repeat that I don't think it needs further bleeding. There is adequate seperation of the clutch plates showing on that animated image earlier.

We are chasing a non-problem and I will continue to consider this to be the case until proven otherwise by the OP getting on his bike, starting it and putting it into gear.
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[Tankie]

Your powers of remote diagnostics must be good
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[ThatDippyTwat]

[ThatDippyTwat]

One stuck clutch, unstuck. Cheers for the pointer.

It was very, very stuck. Took a couple of outright bangs and stalls, but she moves now. Needs a good ride out to free her off properly I reckon.

Clutch still feels spongy, but if it works, it works.
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[ThatDippyTwat]

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