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Posted: 18:50 - 17 Feb 2019 Post subject: Re: Quicker Riders.... |
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NakedBiker wrote: | Today I was overtaking a few cars on A-roads and then I noticed some quicker riders behind.
Rather than overtake me they sat behind.
What should I do in this situation? I don't want to spoil their ride and was happy for them to overtake. |
Give them room to pass when it's safe to do so. Otherwise, just ride normally. Don't start getting unpredictable, and they'll get past you soon enough if they want to. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 21:13 - 17 Feb 2019 Post subject: |
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Employ good observation before pulling out to pass in case someone is coming up in your blind spot and make your intentions clear to following traffic by your road positioning and using your indicators.
But you do that anyway yeah?
It can be quite tricky to pass another bike which is progressing through traffic more slowly than you. I've had some of the Ewan and Charlie brigade who were a downright pain in the arse on some Highland roads.
The issue isn't speed but indicisiveness, if someone has positioned themselves to overtake then doesn't move up when a clear overtaking oppertunity presents itself, I'll give them some time (I generally count down from 5 in my head) then move up myself. If they then start to go, I land up dropping back. If that happens three or four times on the trot, you start getting annoyed.
The above dosen't need to be the case. You can easily make it clear from your road positioning if you intend to move up or not. Don't sit in the "command" position ready to overtake if you're not going to, move across a little and others will move up past you.
From a personal point, I often find it easier to overtake another bike by following them out into an overtake then continuing my pass to take them and possibly the next vehicle after they have pulled in because I'm on the power and moving by that point. However if someone is making clear progress through traffic, I'm happy to just follow them.
If you feel pressurised (I try not to pressurise people), adopt a neutral road position, drop back a little so there is a gap in front of you to move into and wave them through. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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You probably aren't holding them up. I was moving apace today although not really bombing it, and I saw a couple on a Triumph up ahead. I overtook a few cars and caught up with them. The rider indicated to the left, to let me pass. I hung back, because I was waiting for a suitable moment, I know the road well and I knew there were better spots to overtake further along the road. He probably thought he was holding me up - he wasn't. I was happy to just wait. Riding behind someone, getting ready to overtake, you're looking for that person's riding style and habits. You're gauging how far he rides behind the car in front, how predictable his lane position changes are, etc. You're not really being delayed, but the guy in front probably feels uncomfortable with you behind him.
As summer approaches, there will be the sportsbike riding clubs going for their routine fast blats around these parts. What I do when I see them in my mirror is, I deliberately hold the lane position as steadily as possible and slightly increase my distance from the car in front. This helps them overtake me faster. |
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chris_hu_cheng Renault 5 Driver
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I know the feeling, was happening to me a bit yesterday, only passed the full licence at the end of last year and overtaking skill and finesse it not something you pick up on a 125cc.
I am learning to make progress faster but in the meantime have got rid of the stress I was feeling from faster riders behind me by (as others have suggested) adopting a neutral and non-passing position, increasing the space a little in front (so they have somewhere to go if they wish).
I also make a couple of more obvious mirror checks to indicate to them I probably know they are there.
Essentially after that if I am a causing them a problem, it is THEIR problem. After all I am easier to pass than a car.
I guess if you are on a capable bike and not even keep up with the cars you might be getting in the way somewhat, and if you are drifting around and looking random and indecisive you are more of a problem to pass.
I leave all my random, indecisive learning experiences to times where I don't have other riders near me. |
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One of the reasons for riding a bike is to beat the traffic. As your skill increases with experience, pass the cars more and make better progress. The faster bikes behind you are probably doing this. Ride fast, ride safe. Cars don't have the choices bikes do!
Faster riders..... ____________________ Swansea area
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M.C wrote: | Kentol750 wrote: | They may think you know the road and are using you as a marker. |
Pretty much, also I don't like having bikes behind me as they're unpredictable/generally arseholes so I'll sit behind anyone going my kinda pace |
Have a think about what you just said there ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 19:46 - 20 Feb 2019 Post subject: Re: Quicker Riders.... |
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Just wave them through. I don't like anyone up my chuff as it's something else to take my attention off what's going on up ahead. I pull over the to the left and wave them past if I think they're going to be there for long. There aren't many people who won't overtake in that situation. Then you can chase them!
There's also the lesser known sign of kicking your leg out a bit, which is kind of a general acknowledgement, although it appears a lot of bikers haven't got a fookin clue what that means, so it might be an utter waste of your time. ____________________ Fallout |
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I usually give them space to pass when it's safe to do so, especially if they have blue flashy lights, in which case I then make excellent progress in their wake. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 53 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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