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Posted: 11:53 - 09 Mar 2019 Post subject: Re: Limited company vs sole trader status? |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | My accountant tells me I can save money overall by changing from sole trader to limited company status. I have no reason to doubt that, but I have two concerns about going down this road. First, the amount of extra admin involved and secondly, the fear of sticking my head above the parapet, raising a red flag to HMRC and ending up the subject of one of their investigations, the thought of which makes my blood run cold.
I have no employees/colleagues, and my work is desk-based with very few business-related expenses.
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I'm limited as I have to be for suppliers to touch me. My taxation is now way over what a standard PAYE employee would pay and has gone up around a third in the last few years with the government sneaking in extra taxation, which somehow never hit the news like the £80 NI increase, which caused such an outrage for self employed that it was scrapped.
You pay corporation tax on distributed profit at 19% then also pay dividend tax at a minimum of 7.5% on any money you take out, not as wages. Any wages over the tax threshold, you pay tax as both an employer and an employee. I'd be interested to see your accountants workings on this, because I'd expect a sole trader to pay less. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I would get some other accountants to provide a second, third or even fourth opinion.
A company I work with were advised to go ltd and it did end up as advantageous, because (as mentioned by mpd) it opened some business doors for them, but it took a few years of hefty accountancy fee increases and more onerous paperwork chores.
If your business is now part time and not providing your main income, I would question whether it's worth the hassle, unless it's a business that could lead you into some gigantic personal liabilities, if it all goes tits up.
Otherwise, it could just be a licence to print money for your accountant. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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jnw010 wrote: | Limited should be a lower tax bill if you do it right.
Salary up to personal tax allowance, and then dividends up to higher rate limit.
Salary = 0%
Dividends = 19% corp tax + 7.5% income tax.
Note, the first £2k of dividends aren't taxed at all either.
That's still cheaper than paying income tax + NI.
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Since the last reduction of the dividend allowance from £5K to £2K, It's not for me anymore as a one man band. I've checked the calculators out there and I'd now be slightly better off even paying income as PAYE as both an employee and an employer over dividends as PAYE does not count as distributed profit, so is not part of corp tax. It's just even more hassle and expense to add on top of the Ltd stuff and not worth it yet.
Also don't forget that dividend tax is only 7.5% up until total earning (not just dividends) reach £34.5K, then it jumps up massively to 32.5%. On top of corporation tax, that makes it 51.5% tax from £34.5K income upwards, when PAYE can earn £46.3K to £150K and still only pay 40%. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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