Which first big bike?

[PoBASE]

Hi all.

So I'm looking to upgrade to a big bike. Still to do the license so a few months off yet but what I'm already looking at bikes.

Currently I have 6 months 4000 miles experience commuting on a cbf125.

Once I do the DAS I was looking at either:

Cbf 650
Monster 797 or 821.

I really want a monster but slightly put off the 797 because no gear indicator or fuel gauge on the display. The 821 has these and teaction control. But is it too powerful for a beginner bike? It does have urban mode dropping the hp (which I would probably ise) but all the same is it a silly idea and should I go with the cbf650 and wait for the dream?

Thanks
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Pob

[Kentol750]

You've not ridden any big bikes and have already written off everything else out there. Ride a das bike and then you'll have a slightly (tiny bit) more informed opinion of what you want. We all managed without gear indicators and fuel gauges for a hell of a long time. Resetting the trip and knowing how your bike feels in each gear work just fine. You may even ride a v twin and find you hate it. Or, an il4 and hate that! Book das and get licence. In b4tef.
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Some bikes.

[kgm]

Can't help on the selection but a quick note to say most bike fuel indicators are not very reliable due to oddly shaped tanks. Better to use the odometer and figure out when your bike typically runs low.

[Travis Bickle]

Don't be put off by the higher power bikes. Surely you can exercise some self-control over your right wrist and grow into it gradually? The monster is a nice bike!

But yeah as Kentol said why are you writing off hundreds of other bikes and narrowing it down to two/three? When searching for a new bike, especially if it's a first big bike and you're not 100% sure what you're after, I'd get a shortlist of at least a dozen or so and let price/location/condition/age/mileage dictate the rest.
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1999 Yamaha FZS600 Fazer

[ThatDippyTwat]

[PoBASE]

Thanks. So what other suggestions would you have for an upright riding position, commuter (motorway then city). Needs to be upright as back issues prevent more aggressive bikes ( tried the cbr before I bought my cbf and couldn't do it).

Cheers
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Pob

[Kentol750]

There's literally dozens out there. I've got a triumph tiger and a cbr500r, both upright and comfortable. The cb500 range is great fun if you have the balls to ride a 47bhp bike in front of your mates on gs1200s. go sit on everything you can and as Travis said, make a longer shortlist.
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Some bikes.

[c-rabbit]

Hi, I am not going to give you an advice, I'm just going to tell you a couple of facts:
The Monster rides up to its name, it is a furious beast very unforgiving when it comes to throttle control. Building the muscle memory to start it and master it in fast-ish riding is going to take some effort and the entire thing can build frustration which is not something we want from out bike.
However if you are looking for fun you don't have to go further than your righ hand, you twist it and it goes no matter what.
No matter what.

The cb650f is less "binary" if you pass me the term: while you may feel like on the Monster the throttle goes from 0 to Dead directly, the CB does have something more in the middle.
The temper of the il4 is more easygoing, you'll find it easier to get satisfaction from it, go fast, don't get frustration, and it has the added bonus that once you own it (from a skills point of view) you can still part exchange it for a Monster and discover that there's even more out there to enjoy.

I guess I kinda advised in the end but, in my defense, I really believe in what I wrote.
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Cheers,
Cyrus

[recman]

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[Easy-X]

Mmmm.... bike pr0n. You also want something that delights when you drag the cover off or open the garage door

I have a mate going through the same process at the moment. He's considering something like a Royal Enfield Interceptor.
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[chickenstrip]

[Teflon-Mike]

If the biggest thing you have to worry about is whether a bike has a gear position indicator.... either you are SO prepared for test that it's a cinch, or you are TOTALLY out of wack with reality!

I have NEVER owned a bike with a GPI... its pretty much an irrelevance, and if I cant tell what gear I am in by the engine noise and how fast I am going.... a GPI 'probably' aint gonna help much.

Crikey; I dont even bother looking at the dang speedo all that often! This is NOT reallyu somethiing that would tip my purchase decission.

Having a licence? Well, that is slightly more critical.... till its in your pocket, I would be rather more bothered about boning up on the theory/hazard tests, and making sure I knew then answers to the pavement questions about pillions an examiner will ask, and spotting them, niggly little catrch-alls they use on test, like indicating to pass parked cars, or 'undertaking' cars waiting to turn right.....

DONT sweat the small stuff... and until you have actually passed test, what bike you cant legally ride until you do, is small stuff.

A-N-D... then... anything will do... speed-limits and SMIDSY's dont change just cos you got a piece of paper in your pocket... and as its a ride-what you like-licence? Ride what you like!

Personally, a Ducati Monster, probably wouldn't be my first choice, though I have been tempted by one a few times, b-u-t... making the choice of which one, based on whether it has some extra LED's to tell me stuff I have, in forty years not needed to know? No! It REALLY is neither here nor there, and there's FAR more important stuff I would be swayed by.... like whether it needed its cam-belts swapped, or its Desmo valves shimmed, and whether there was a mechanic within bus-ride of my house that could do that sort of stuff!

Carts and Horses.... get them in order.... and here and now, worry about getting the licence. Without that, none of it's particularly important!
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[leolion]

mt 07,tracer 700,xsr 700.