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Posted: 16:57 - 18 Apr 2019 Post subject: No place for hate on the Interwebs! |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47974579
First it was Alex Jones, now it's the so-called "far right." Next week: bans on anyone "Alt-right" and "Alt-right-adjacent"
Thought-criminals! No place for you in the new utopia...
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I've never noticed a lack of space on the internet. It can fit everything in. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | I've never noticed a lack of space on the internet. It can fit everything in. |
Strictly speaking, yes, the "Real Internet" is unaffected but for the proles FB, Instashame, Goggle et al are the defacto Internet
Fingers crossed YouTube doesn't follow suit or I'll have nothing to watch! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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HardlyDavidson wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I've never noticed a lack of space on the internet. It can fit everything in. |
Strictly speaking, yes, the "Real Internet" is unaffected but for the proles FB, Instashame, Goggle et al are the defacto Internet
Fingers crossed YouTube doesn't follow suit or I'll have nothing to watch! |
I dunno, I live here on BCF, all my stuff is here; don't care about the rest.
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Posted: 17:53 - 18 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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I'm in two minds about this. The socialist in me says ban them all because they are insidious individuals hiding behind facades of respectability, but the liberal in me says I must defend their right to free speech even if I don't agree with what they say.
My liberal side is winning... Plus, send them underground and they become more dangerous, particularly if they have a genuine axe to grind i.e. lack of freedom of speech. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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MCN wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
I dunno, I live here on BCF, all my stuff is here; don't care about the rest.
The real tragedy is, BCF is dying |
BCF may be dying as folk like 'medium density fibreboard 7x2' are holding the knife. |
What's really tedious is that people rise to him constantly. Takes two to argue. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MCN wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
What's really tedious is that people rise to him constantly. Takes two to argue. |
Aww don't you start...
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Diggs wrote: | I'm in two minds about this. The socialist in me says ban them all because they are insidious individuals hiding behind facades of respectability, but the liberal in me says I must defend their right to free speech even if I don't agree with what they say.
My liberal side is winning... Plus, send them underground and they become more dangerous, particularly if they have a genuine axe to grind i.e. lack of freedom of speech. |
This is miles from a freedom of speech issue, although it seems that the confusion is widespread.
A garden variety fascist these days has all the freedom he wants, as long as he calls himself something vague (alt-Teletubby, ethnoabsorption-passive, or whatever moniker fascists prefer this year), and phrases his sentences carefully so they don’t meet certain legal tests. No harm will come to him, and this is what freedom of speech is.
What freedom of speech isn’t: it isn’t forced cooperation of other people and organisations to amplify our fascist’s message. He cannot compel others to repeat after him, or require a publisher to help him achieve fame. For example, if I run a venue and refuse to rent it out for a fascist meet-up, I’m not infringing on the poor souls’ freedom, I’m merely making a reasonable business decision. |
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Well that does sound extremely fair but...
FB try to present themselves as "conveyors" of information much like the Post Office that's so they can shirk responsibility for the content on their systems. Once they start "curating" what is on their systems they become a publisher and liable for the content they store.
Bear in mind there is, legally, a big difference between "there are too many <ethnic group of choice> in this country! don't let any more in!!!" and "there are too many <ethnics group of choice> in this country! execute the lot of 'em!!!" but the former is classified as "hate speech" by FB et al.
"Hate Speech" this is all I picture when ever that phrase is used:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvGmOZ5T6_Y
It won't be political stuff that breaks FB it'll be something trivial. Probably just a rabid fan slating one of the actors in the next Star Wars and one of Disney's lawyers will think it a jolly wheeze to sue both the fan and FB. That'd be the mother of all corporate 3-card-brag games! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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mpd72 wrote: | Diggs wrote: | The socialist in me says ban them all because they are insidious individuals hiding behind facades of respectability, |
Isn't that more fascist than socialist? Silencing someone because they don't agree with your way of thinking? |
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Its both at the extreme ends of the spectrum. Think Hitler and Stalin. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Because it is a loaded question, muppet. It depends upon definition of socialist and fascist. I don't see many definitions of 'socialist' that include silencing the opposition as a trait, whereas it is a common feature of fascism.
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Diggs wrote: | Because it is a loaded question, muppet. It depends upon definition of socialist and fascist. I don't see many definitions of 'socialist' that include silencing the opposition as a trait, whereas it is a common feature of fascism.
Are you trying to ascertain whether socialists can also be fascists? If so, just ask..... |
No it's not muppet. You just don't like admitting that modern day lefties are the new wave of fascists, hell bent on forcibly silencing any opposition.
One of the key qualities of fascism is the forced suppressing of any opposition. This is exactly what the modern leftie is doing.
When it's got to the stage that the largest social media platforms have now banned anything to the right of the current Remain biased government, we're no longer living in a democracy with free speech.
What we have now is more akin to Marxism. Marxism is a genius ideology designed to gain mass social control while giving the illusion of freedom and equality. The EU has spent £billions of our money embedding cultural marxism into our education system over the last 40 years. Anyone now, right of centre are up against millions who have been thoroughly brainwashed. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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An interesting point of view. Here is the counter...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/19/cultural-marxism-a-uniting-theory-for-rightwingers-who-love-to-play-the-victim
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I got as far as the opening photograph of Brevick at the top of the article, before I gave up wading through the usual Guardian agenda of "anyone not a socialist is worse than Hitler".
Feck me, how do you keep a straight face when reading The Guardian? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Feck me, how do you keep a straight face when reading The Guardian? |
Because it makes more sense than the right wing nonsense you repeat. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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