Cat b confusion help

[Kneedown1981]

Hi all

Recently acquired a zx6r f2 for very cheap price.

Bike is in good condition but was a cat c write-off in 2015 that I was aware of.

Have done a hpi check and it says that in 1999 bike was recorded as a cat b.
Since then I have all the mot and has been on the road the whole time. I have had insurance quotes using the reg number and nothing has flagged up about this. I have green slip and DVLA site said last log book issued was January 2018 to the guy I bought it off.

I am confused by this as I thought cat b meant can't be used on the road, but it has been mot,ed taxed and insured consistently after the initial cat b in 1999. The hpi report said may have had a Vic check.
Am I going to have any issues with this I can't work it out.

Anyone ever experienced this issue.

Thanks for any info

[Pjay]

I would say the HPI check is wrong.
There's no way it wouldn't be on the V5.
Plus you'd be pulled up by every anpr camera equipped vehicle you was withing shouting distance of.
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[Kneedown1981]

That's where I'm confused, on the hpi check under DVLA part it says not recoded as scrapped, but it's coming up under the hpi check in condition report, at the time it would have been cat b the bike would have only been 2 years old so surely if this was the case it wouldn't have been on the road for the 20 years since

[Pete.]

HPI checks can be wrong. My 'busa was showing as sold with finance owing but the seller was adamant he paid for it in total without finance. Turned out the record was for a renault car and they had entered the reg number wrong in the database.

Also, bikes were never subject to VIC check.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[wr6133]

[Pjay]

[wr6133]

[Pete.]

Years ago I worked for a firm that bought a couple of vans. He taxed them both the same time and put the wrong tax disc in the windows. We were working on a London site and sitting in the vans at lunchtime when a beat copper (remember them?) spotted the wrong reg on the tax disc on one of the vans. Since both vans were parked only yards apart it was easy to explain what happened but it made him dig a bit deeper and after making some enquiries on the radio he came back and said "this van is reported as a burnt out write off". Turns out, the firm had bought a ringer.

This was probably 25 years ago so they had total loss info on file even back in the 90's.
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Pjay]

[wr6133]

[Monkeypony]

There is nothing illegal about riding a cat B bike, so ANPR cameras wont give a flying fuck.

It's only very recently that the DVLA stopped issuing V5s for cat B bikes, but the V5 is only an indication of who has the liability to pay the VED. Nothing to do with ownership or legality to be in the road.

I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you.
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[Pete.]

[Kneedown1981]

The bike has been through many owners in its 23 years all of whom have had it on the road, the log book dosent say it is not scrapped with the DVLA so I think I'll ride it and if any issue arrises I'll look at getting anew frame

[Easy-X]

Is it possible it was actually broken up as parts and someone put the frame and the engine back together?

Anyhoo, the Category system is just a convenience thing. Previous Category status is just that: history; it only needs to be roadworthy in the here and now.
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[Kneedown1981]

Thanks for replies guys been very helpful. Just out of interest I read the hpi report again and there is a difference in the wording

Basically in the original cat b incident it says total loss recorded against the registration plate.

And where it was cat c in 2015 it says loss recorded againstregistration plate and vin.

Does this mean anything to anyone

Thanks

[Kneedown1981]

Spoke to the people who carry out the hpi checks and they gave me some info which may be of interest.

They said a bike of this age has a short vin, and at the time lots of veichles had issues where veichles with longer vins that had the same section of vin as the bike could give a false flag on the hpi. They can do a vin investigation to see if the cat b is incorrect and have it removed.

[Skudd]

My bike is a 2010 cat N bike put back on the road on a 57 frame. It has kept the 57 plate reg but the 2010 mileage. Had two MOT's since and the V5 is now in my name without any issues. The only issue I expect with the bike is when the insurance company tries to squirm out of any payouts in the future.
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[Ste]

The 2010 cat N bike hasn't been put back on the road. It's gone, it's dead, it's buried.

[Skudd]

[Kneedown1981]

Well bit the bullet and got another frame, you clear and two years newer so gonna swap to that next week