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Posted: 11:56 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: Tyres - normal chickenstrip, or defective? |
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So it was pointed out to me recently that the chickenstrips on my tyres on the Triumph are very hard and shiny. Now they've been on the bike since new, late 2017, but when compared with the tyres fitted on my ER5 last year, the chickenstrips on them, while smooth, are still pretty grippy to the touch. Best way I can describe it is the Triumph's feel more like plastic (they're Pirelli Phantom Sportscomp) whereas the Metzlers on the ER5 feel rubbery, even if smooth.
Is this just the way some tyres are, or is this suggesting there might be a problem here? I did give them a gentle rub with some sandpaper (by hand!) and it's improved it but they still don't feel quite the same.
Any thoughts? Photo below (even though they've been rubbed a bit, you can still see the edges).
thanks ____________________ TG. |
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Posted: 13:33 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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chickenstrip isn't normal
If you have chickenstrips because you don't use that part of the tyre, you don't have to worry about the grip on that part!
Taking sandpaper to them is just...just... I don't have words.
Nope, I'm with MarJay on this. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 13:48 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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ThunderGuts wrote: |
I was wondering if you'd reply |
Given the thread title, there really was no doubt
Quote: | The sandpaper, it was just to roughen the surface a bit . . . like you say, it shouldn't be an issue but I'm still in the "gaining confidence" stage of riding so doubtless I'll push more lean angle over time, my worry is I'll drop onto the super shiny strip and they'll be next to no grip and down I go |
Thing is, as you gain confidence, you'll slowly begin to use more of the tyre. It's not like you'll suddenly be a riding god and be squirming on the very edge of the grip surface.
Edit: Paddy got there first ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 13:51 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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That's very true. Cheers for the replies folks.
So we think they're just normal chickenstrips (on the tyre that is ) ____________________ TG. |
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I always had a couple of mil. until I started to ride regularly in Wales. Then, I got rid of them altogether, on the rear at least.
Back to having a bit now, as I've slowed down a bit, and the roads I use most often now are generally not so conducive to on-the-limit riding. Don't worry about it, and don't give a hoot what others think or say. You pussy ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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That cunt WILL fall off some day riding like that.
You need to keep in-line with the frame to properly squash the tire. He upsets the bike sitting up like a noob/nob like that.
Weight should be on the inside peg too. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Not sure about this. That looks like a good jean angle. Was he snapped at the point of lifting the bike up for the next left-hander? Still, no gloves = twit! |
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Looks like something out of a Japanese Autorace...
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That's not a chicken strip, that's a chicken motorway. have you got stabilisers fitted? ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Rubbing slightyl on the inside of a hugger can make tyres go shiny like that. Took me ages to work out why I was getting shiny stripes on the far RHS of the rear tyre on my VFR.
Turns out if I had a lot of luggage on, it would push the exhaust very slightly in, then the rubber of the exhaust bracket could JUST touch the hugger under near full suspension compression on the exit to a left hander. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 22:49 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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ThunderGuts wrote: | Oddly, the strips on the front are tiny by comparison, maybe 1cm at most - not sure if that suggests I'll run out of front tyre before I run out of rear tyre? |
Front tyres tend to be narrower to start; I have I think its a 110 front, 150 rear, so 10mm of chicken-strip on the front is aprox 10% of usable tread, whilst on the back, that same 10mm is only about 7% of usable tread... so wear on the front 'looks' like more than ut is, when compared to the back.
Next; Bikes steer by leaning....
And it suggests that the front wheel is 'leaned' more to the surface when steering than the rear.
Ie: to make a turn, you are more often steering the bars, than leaning the bike.
This is quite usual, especially on a road bike, which makes a lot of slower speed and tighter radius turns.
But.... does go with your confidence 'thing', and a less confident rider will tend to hold the bike more upright for slower speed and tighter turns, afraid that without the speed, the bike will fall over.
It's actually quite remarkable just how far over you can lean a bike, at slower speeds, in tighter turns... go look at some moto-gym clips; and using less bar steer and more lean steer, the bike will actually corner better, the steering geometry being pushed much less into the margins where things like trail are trying to work against you and make it harder, trying to make the bike sit up and pull the bars back into straight.... but it does feel a bit perverse to start, and back to the confidence 'thing'. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 2 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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