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Posted: 10:09 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: Oil viscosity options |
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Looking in the Haynes manual for my Fazer it says I can use either 10W/30 or 10W/40.
Even worse for my YBR I've got 6 options to choose from (0W/30, 10W/40, 10W/50, 15W/40, 20W/40 or 20W/50)
What are the pros and cons against a lower viscosity vs. a higher one and why would you pick one over the other?
Is it generally accepted that the 10W/30 would give slightly better fuel efficiency and performance whereas the 10W/40 would give slightly better wear protection? Or is that over simplifying it?
Thanks in advance for your input! ____________________ Must Go Faster
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blurredman World Chat Champion
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Posted: 10:19 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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Generally the lower oil viscosity is to maintain oil pressure and viscosity to lower temperatures. Likewise with the the higher ones. You don't want really thin oil in a hot climate, it could be too thin to properly lubricate bearings/cams/lifters/chains/anything -
Too thick an oil in the winter could mean that it doesn't travel to the correct places fast enough to reduce engine-starting and 'warm up' wear.
That said, these days with multigrade oils, it's not so necessary to change your oil to a lower grade for the winter, as it would have been in the past.
10w40 is a good all round, really.
I'm sure i'll be corrected, though. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
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Posted: 10:29 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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I can see how having oil too viscous in cold weather would increase startup wear... but surely by the time and engine is warmed up (to say, what, 90 degrees) surely a 10 or even 20 degree difference in climate isn't going to affect it all that much?
I guess what I'm saying is that in minus 20 conditions your oil is going to be minus 20 at startup.
But it doesn't matter whether it's zero degrees or plus 50, once warmed up your engine/oil temperature is going to be the same regardless??? ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Posted: 12:14 - 24 Apr 2019 Post subject: Re: Oil viscosity options |
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Travis Bickle wrote: | Looking in the Haynes manual for my Fazer it says I can use either 10W/30 or 10W/40. |
That is a reasonable recommendation. The FZS600 owners manual
also specifies 15W-40, 20W-40 and 20W-50, provided you don't
use the bike in very cold conditions.
Quote: | Even worse for my YBR I've got 6 options to choose from (0W/30, 10W/40, 10W/50, 15W/40, 20W/40 or 20W/50) |
So cold viscosity 0W to 20W and hot viscosity from
SAE 30 to 50.
10W-40 would be a reasonable choice for either bike.
Your Fazer probably left the factory with Yamalube-branded
10W-40 in the sump.
Quote: | What are the pros and cons against a lower viscosity vs. a higher one and why would you pick one over the other? |
I choose to use 5W-40 in my Kawasaki because it reduces the
rattling noises from the clutch when the engine is cold.
5W-40 or 10W-40 works fine in the Bandit.
Quote: | Is it generally accepted that the 10W/30 would give slightly better fuel efficiency and performance whereas the 10W/40 would give slightly better wear protection? |
Generally, yes.
Quote: | Or is that over simplifying it? |
A bit...
If you are worried about the specific viscosity values for
a given brand or type of oil, most manufacturers provide a
product data sheet which shows viscosity at 40C and 100C
and viscosity index for that particular product. ____________________ Bandit 650SA, ZZ-R1100 |
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