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Posted: 17:44 - 17 May 2019 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: |
Just blind and deaf surely? Sorry, who said that?
This raises a fundamental question - if the Brexit Party claims that it will 'invest in Britain and British jobs and industries', where will the money come from? |
Cutting down on uncontrolled immigration and full access to benefits, health tourism, EU enabled corporation tax fiddles, EU membership fees, Foreign Aid. etc..
The sort of shit Corbyn and Abbot wouldn't even dream of. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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chickenstrip YFPOS wrote: | Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | When you vote in a GE most people vote for party, not local individual, and you know that if the party gets a reasonable majority there's a fair chance the manifesto will be implemented. |
Maybe in spirit, but sometimes not even that. No one is better or more practiced at U turns than a politician. The best you can say is that Party A will do more to address social problems and Party B will do more to aid businesses and so on. But with long-standing parties, you don't need a manifesto to know these things. And with Farage, you know he wants to get us out of the EU, invest in Britain and British jobs and industries, curb unchecked immigration and so on. If you don't know these things, you must be blind, deaf and dumb. |
My first paragraph was there to set the context for the second, which you omitted and replaced with your own, longer version. Say all 73 UK MEPs are from one party, there's still no chance their policies will be implemented so a detailed manifesto is worthless. You broadly know what Labour stands for and you vote accordingly. Me? I don't vote in the EUs but I might this time |
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Posted: 18:42 - 17 May 2019 Post subject: |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
My first paragraph was there to set the context for the second, which you omitted and replaced with your own, longer version. Say all 73 UK MEPs are from one party, there's still no chance their policies will be implemented so a detailed manifesto is worthless. You broadly know what Labour stands for and you vote accordingly. Me? I don't vote in the EUs but I might this time |
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Lack of access to miltary version of Galileo is going to cost us billions. |
Could be too late to worry about that, the EU have already taken their ball away, according to this
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/25/what-is-galileo-and-why-are-the-uk-and-eu-arguing-about-it
Might be true, might not be, but for me, that's just another reason to get out of this petulant juvenile club.
There are, at the last count, 195 countries in the world, some of which have little or no value to us, some of which could be of more value to us than the whole of Europe put together.
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Itchy wrote: | chickenstrip YFPOS wrote: | You came back after a long absence to post that? |
No it's just a reminder that other countries and, especially, other corporations, are soulless sociopaths.
There are no friendships when there is money to be made.
Your bestest mates the USA published a totally one sided document that gives little to no benefits and shows a desire to violate UK self determination.
That's not an indictment of them merely an observation which is important to realise as you leave your country at their tender mercies...Because they don't have any. |
Itchy, how on earth are you going to change my mind about Brexit?!
You're right really - it's the world model that needs to change, or adjust or something. Us withdrawing from the EU isn't going to fix things, but I just know that neither is the EU. Currently, no one has the answers to how things are going, and most aren't even addressing, or even admitting that there are problems. The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle of it all - certainly not in the radical wings.
I could see me wanting to stay in an EU, but one that reformed its ideas about democracy, and one that realised that capitalism is getting a bit..."away with itself", and could probably do with an adjustment towards the social side of things - for a while at least. Unlike some these days, I can hold the two ideas in my head at the same time, rather than going all extreme with one or the other. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Us plebs just need to get 'enough'. Not everyone can be a wealthy businessman or privileged politician. And who needs it anyway? All it needs is the alleviation of poverty, so people can have at least a reasonable standard of living. This is something we in the West have been steadily achieving, but sometimes we seem to slip back a bit, and as I said, an adjustment is required. There seems to me to be more recognition of this here in the UK than there is in the EU corridors of power at present, but if the EU could show that they recognised and were going to do something positive and effective about it, it'd be a good start to winning me over to something we might consider membership of.
But countries are unique and separate entities, and I don't think you can just amalgamate them into one blob and expect everything to work perfectly under one set of rules. We do have our differences, it's fact. And thank goodness for that, it makes the world a more interesting place. The trick is learning how to get along despite those differences, not to eradicate them like they were some kind of disease.
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Posted: 16:35 - 18 May 2019 Post subject: |
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The anti Brexit Party propaganda group Led By Donkey's, appear to have breached electoral law.
https://order-order.com/2019/05/17/anti-brexit-billboard-campaign-massive-apparent-breach-electoral-law/?fbclid=IwAR2EZ1EE7HxfwcnuUrNCkgzZiEOoepxruomPxWaDfwbgKsKgaZKOGvxEwLQ
Mind you, being pro Remain, this unlawful spending will probably be ignored.
The campaigns were bad enough as it is, being fake Brexit Party posters with fake website address and shocking headlines to try to tarnish the real party, such as "Target Gay people" and "Attack the NHS".
It really is a bit sad that people can't put their efforts into promoting their own ideas instead of putting all the effort into attacking others. This seems to be how Remain and left wing politics works now. Don't offer anything positive, just make the alternative sound worse. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Diggs wrote: |
Don't forget the inevitable backlash after coming last at Eurovision... |
That's one hell of an achievement! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 337 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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