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Shurely this is the time you bring up rigged postal votes in mainly Muslim areas... ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 23:26 - 23 May 2019 Post subject: Re: Tin foil hat time... |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Sister Sledge wrote: | No voting card arrived for me and so I simply went in and told them. As you all know, you can still vote this way. |
You don't need to take your polling card to the polling station. It says that on it (but of course you didn't get the card). If you are not registered to vote at your address, you cannot vote. Are you a first-time voter, perhaps?
Sister Sledge wrote: | Not once was I asked for my ID - I simply gave my address and they told me my name! I voted and job done. |
Yes, that's how it happens. As Ste said, they cross your name off. It's always like that. If there's a question over legitimacy, they have procedures to follow. |
Agreed, that's always how it's been done. Very weird though, considering the typically relatively low voter turnout. I mean, the only failsafe against a fraudulent vote is if an individual who's already been crossed off apparently tries to vote again. So all you have to do is know the names and addresses of anyone who is unlikely to bother pitching to vote, and you can simply use their vote. ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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No it doesn't. All that explains is a pointless procedure for fishing out fake voters, not whether someone in the establishment can tell how the person claiming to be you voted.
Quote: | There may be rare occasions when a member
of the polling station team, another elector, an
election agent, polling agent or candidate
suspects that the person requesting a ballot
paper is not who they claim to be. This is called
personation and it is a serious offence. |
It's a name. The polling station team get no other information, so as long as you look the right sex and nationality for that name, how could they even suspect you not to be the person at that address?
It sounds clever, but it really isn't. I could vote at my polling station, then if I knew someone wasn't going to vote and knew where they lived, so long as they had a British sounding male name and used a different polling station, I could go and vote there too. I'm not sure how this procedure would detect me as being fake.
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mpd72 wrote: | No it doesn't. |
Really?
The fact that you, willfully, choose to misunderstand and disregard what Sister Sledge was asking is par for the course, for you!
The actual answer to his question:-
Sister Sledge wrote: | Hang on - I always thought my vote was anonymous? So you're saying that those at the top can actually see my political preferences? |
(Not your own, purposefully, obtuse, agenda driven narrative, is specifically given on page 44 of the document I referred to).
Here it is in black and white:-
The Electoral Commission wrote: |
Q. Why do you need to write my elector number beside my ballot paper number? Does this mean my vote is not secret?
A. The requirement that the elector number is recorded on this list against the number of the ballot paper issued to you is included in the election rules.
This system is essentially an updated version of a system that dates from the Ballot Act 1872, which was introduced to avoid the possibility of counterfeit ballot papers being used and to assist with the detection of
alleged fraud.
Clearly, if the ballot papers are numbered, it is far more difficult for an unscrupulous person to introduce copies of official ballot papers into
the ballot box. If a fraudulent act has occurred, it would be possible to detect the offence by reference to the corresponding number list.
There is a safeguard to prevent the ballot paper numbers on the corresponding number list being linked with the marked ballot papers.
At the close of poll, the corresponding number list is placed in a sealed envelope by the Presiding Officer at the polling station. The sealed envelope is then taken to the Local Returning Officer.
After the count has take place, the used ballot papers are also sealed.
The only occasion when the sealed packets can be opened is on the order of a judge as a result of an election petition or in furtherance of an investigation into an alleged election offence. Even then, it is very rare for the documents to be examined except in cases
where fraud or personation, (i.e. someone voting illegally on someone else’s behalf), are being investigated.
Because of the above safeguards, it is virtually impossible for any person to be in a position to marry up the voter to a particular ballot paper.
For that reason, voters can be confident that the ballot remains secret. Voters have no grounds to fear that the way in which they voted could be detected, except under the very special circumstances outlined above. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 355 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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