|
Author |
Message |
Val |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Val World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Karma :
|
Posted: 15:34 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: Who won EU elections Leave or Remain? |
|
|
Carole Cadwalladr:
Quote: | The idea that the Brexit Party is a ‘new’ party is a total fiction. It’s just the latest host body for Farage - the tapeworm of British politics. |
Farage has got +5 seats in addition to 2014 24 UKIP seats which he already has. UKIP got zero.
Farage huge win is just a hot air. The number of seats and votes prove it:
2014: 4,376,635 27.49%
2019: 5,248,533 31.6%
Remain parties 2019: 40%
https://i.imgur.com/BskDrk1.jpg
Leave BRX+UKIP: 5,802,996
Remain parties: 6,149,145
Fence LabCon: 3,859,402
The same as reported by BBC:
BBC 2016: 52/48 for Farage is overwhelming win!
BBC 2019: 40/31 for Remain is clear winner for the 31% Brexit party? ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
Yamaha Fazer FZS 600, MT09, XSR 900 |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Polarbear |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Polarbear Super Spammer
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Ste |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Ste Not Work Safe
Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
panrider_uk |
This post is not being displayed .
|
panrider_uk World Chat Champion
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
redeem ouzzer |
This post is not being displayed .
|
redeem ouzzer World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
cdlxxvi |
This post is not being displayed .
|
cdlxxvi Nearly there...
Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Karma :
|
Posted: 16:26 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
A measure of success which hasn't been adequately discussed is importance of the newly elected MEPs in the next EP.
In this respect ALDE is a clear winner, as they have become a 3rd largest MEP group and it will be very difficult to form any working coalition without them. Here it's good news for LD voters, as their MEPs can be expected to actually do something constructive.
Labour's beating contributed to the overall loss of S&D, but they can still be expected to work with EPP & ALDE sometimes.
Tories were nobodies already in the 8th EP's ECR, so nothing new here.
Lastly, EFA becomes EP's 4th force, so Greens can mean something as well.
EFDD, on the other hand, has negligible chances of doing anything but publishing hundreds of "BREXITEER DESTROYS!!!!!!!!11111111 USSREU BUREUCRATS IN 2 SECONDS" Youtube videos, because by their very nature they won't work with anyone.
Also, considering Farage limited company's manifesto (hard Brexit), they are probably clueless as to what MEPs competences actually are, precluding them from doing any work. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Sload |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Sload World Chat Champion
Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
grr666 |
This post is not being displayed .
|
grr666 Super Spammer
Joined: 16 Jun 2014 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 17:20 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
Sload wrote: | Ste is right, too many threads. And yes you are also right, this is a moderate increase as the Brexit non party is UKIP 2.0. I actually expected far more but I guess they are just disproportionately loud. |
Nonsense. Can we bring some fact into this remain dressed cobblers?
In the last European elections, UKIP beat there nearest rivals, Labour and the Tories by only 2 or 3%. In this election, TBP beat their nearest rivals, The Literal Undemocrats, by over 11%, making TBP the joint largest party in the European parliament.
Hardly "moderate", it's almost a 4 fold increase in the lead over second place. I'm impressed by the creativity remainers are using in finding new ways to play down that Farage absolutely pissed it by quite some margin. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
Jaguar S Type 3.0 V6 Sport R, VW Transporter T5 GP LWB Shuttle 140ps DSG. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Polarbear |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Polarbear Super Spammer
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Sload |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Sload World Chat Champion
Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Diggs |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Diggs World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Karma :
|
Posted: 18:00 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
Any fule can play with statistics, but the truth of the matter is that despite some describing this a second referendum, it doesn't indicate how the electorate would vote if we actually had one... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Kawasaki Jimbo |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Kawasaki Jimbo World Chat Champion
Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Easy-X |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Easy-X Super Spammer
Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Kawasaki Jimbo |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Kawasaki Jimbo World Chat Champion
Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
cdlxxvi |
This post is not being displayed .
|
cdlxxvi Nearly there...
Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
stinkwheel |
This post is not being displayed .
|
stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :
|
Posted: 19:49 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
Umm. The figures stated by the OP only hold true if you discount Labour and Conservative as "undecided"
However both the conservative and labour parties are pro-brexit. Their official position is that they will exit the European Union. Both parties voted for article 50. They just can't decide how they want to go about it.
So 58.1% of the seats went to pro-brexit parties. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 20:13 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
TBP is less than 2 months old. It just pissed the European elections with 50% more votes than its nearest competitor. They haven't yet even appointed their 650 plus candidates, out if over 1,300 applicants going through interview now, nor have they put the draft manifesto (or policy as Farage will call it) to the supporters to get input over the content.
Let’s start looking at GE polls a bit nearer the GE shall we, or would that not fit your agenda?
You can always tell when a party to the right or anti EU have nailed it, because the Remain left start sh1tting themselves and twisting facts to play it down. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
Jaguar S Type 3.0 V6 Sport R, VW Transporter T5 GP LWB Shuttle 140ps DSG. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
stinkwheel |
This post is not being displayed .
|
stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Sload |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Sload World Chat Champion
Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
- |
This post is not being displayed because the poster has bad karma. Unhide this post / all posts.
|
- Super Spammer
Joined: 22 Oct 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 21:26 - 28 May 2019 Post subject: |
|
|
Sload wrote: | stinkwheel wrote: | Umm. The figures stated by the OP only hold true if you discount Labour and Conservative as "undecided" |
Already addressed. As Farage, his supporters and several people on this forum keep bleating, A deal exit is not Brexit which, and as Labour offer only a modified version of the same, they cancel it out as either a third option or undecided. This is Farage's very reasoning and justification to his base and fills his rhetoric which his supporters then parrot.
They cannot have it both ways no matter what illogical frame people keep trying to twist onto it.
And I'm done on this circlejirk thread. Far more interesting things to watch going forward so enjoy your stay if this sideshow is important to you. |
So leaving with a deal is remaining then?
You lot are hilarious! You change the rules to suit you, instead of admitting miserable defeat. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
Jaguar S Type 3.0 V6 Sport R, VW Transporter T5 GP LWB Shuttle 140ps DSG. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 332 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
|
|
|