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MCN
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 29 May 2019    Post subject: Powered Two Wheeler Reply with quote

https://electrek.co/2019/05/25/bmw-weak-attempt-electric-scooter/

This is frotte with legalities.

No one seems to have addressed the facts.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 30 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i have read these types of scooters whether electric or motor are actually illegal............shame as i really would like one!
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G
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 31 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
from what i have read these types of scooters whether electric or motor are actually illegal............shame as i really would like one!

Yes, unless road registered, which this sort of design is basically impossible to. In other countries they are more-legal.
If anyone would like to buy a road registered one, I have one for sale, as it goes Smile.

(It's a bit chunkier than these and does have a seat etc - good for about 25mph with 1kw motor.)
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 02 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're illegal, however on my daily commute into London I never fail to see less than 2 or 3 on the road. At this point the police seem to have given up stopping and confiscating them as it's a stupid law in the first place and they have better things to do. Every so often some police twitter account will shit up a post about how naughty it is to ride one and how they'll be taken away etc etc...

This BMW one seems pretty weaksauce, I've clocked some other ones at a decent 15mph and a mentalist on a monowheel at indicated 20 based on my bike speedo. When motorcycles are inevitably banned in London i'm looking to bodge an e-bicycle together with a 30mile range and 40mph top speed and a pair of panniers to hide the system so I can get into London without suffering the rail network.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 03 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:
At this point the police seem to have given up stopping and confiscating them as it's a stupid law in the first place and they have better things to do. Every so often some police twitter account will shit up a post about how naughty it is to ride one and how they'll be taken away etc etc...

Not long ago...
https://twitter.com/MetCycleCops/status/1133329245462253569

(The one I've got is actually the same model as the on the recovery truck - yes, it does weigh a bit more, but yes, it also folds up to fit in a car boot easily.)
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 03 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Vracktal wrote:
At this point the police seem to have given up stopping and confiscating them as it's a stupid law in the first place and they have better things to do. Every so often some police twitter account will shit up a post about how naughty it is to ride one and how they'll be taken away etc etc...

Not long ago...
https://twitter.com/MetCycleCops/status/1133329245462253569

(The one I've got is actually the same model as the on the recovery truck - yes, it does weigh a bit more, but yes, it also folds up to fit in a car boot easily.)


You know what really pisses me off about tweets like that from the police, not that they have done it, not that they are getting lambasted by the greenies but they never come back and put their point of view and answer the arguments.

I'd love to see their reasoning for sending a car transporter flat bed for taking a scooter away. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 04 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
from what i have read these types of scooters whether electric or motor are actually illegal............shame as i really would like one!


Not by the letter of the law and that's without heading off into the right to travel or human rights territory.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 04 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think that's bad, check this out:

https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/04/bird-cruiser/


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Ste
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 04 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmoan wrote:
and that's without heading off into the right to travel or human rights territory.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 04 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Jmoan wrote:
and that's without heading off into the right to travel or human rights territory.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


The jokes on you ste.
I'm typing this message out while standing on one of these scooters balanced on a hoverboard, on another scooter riding down the road.
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