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That's fine, they aren't Muslims, so it's all gravy. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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The Irish border is the bit which is the problem. |
It's not though, is it? This was just a way for the EU to convince us we couldn't leave without their "backstop"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9266026/brexit-irish-border-technology-brussels/
When this solution was suggested by Brexiteers, the Eu rubbished it. Now they're planning exactly the same.
Quote: | BRUSSELS is drawing up plans to use technology on the Irish border — despite rubbishing the idea when put forward by Brexiteers.
Eurocrats will deploy “IT systems” to keep trade flowing between Ireland and the EU via Britain if there’s a No Deal Brexit. |
Ste wrote: | Sajid Javid says he thinks the government should spend "hundreds of millions" to find a technological solution which is a nice idea but nothing has been said about how that could or would work. By his own admission, Javid has said that such a solution would require "hundreds of millions of euros, no one really knows because it hasn't been done before".
The border problem is only simple if you're willing for the IRA to make a come back. |
Savid Javid is an idiot. By the way, how do you think non EU freight is cleared at Dover? Do you realise all the trucks drive into the the UK uncleared and freight is cleared for them electronically further up the road? Some go up the M20 for over 10 miles to stop at MOTIS at the M20 Services at J11 to collect their paperwork if needed.
I have some customers who clear freight from home offices, so not sure how they get paperwork to the driver. How exactly is Dover a hard border? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 09:23 - 12 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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How exactly is Dover a hard border?
"A ‘hard border’ is the term used to describe checks on people and goods―and the staff, buildings and equipment needed to do that"
https://fullfact.org/europe/avoiding-hard-border-ireland/
"This is the only land border between the UK and the rest of the EU and at the moment there are no barriers and checks along it. The House of Commons Northern Ireland Affairs Committee described the border as having “unique political significance due to the history of Ireland and conflict in Northern Ireland.” " |
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Ste wrote: | How exactly is Dover a hard border?
"A ‘hard border’ is the term used to describe checks on people and goods―and the staff, buildings and equipment needed to do that"
https://fullfact.org/europe/avoiding-hard-border-ireland/
"This is the only land border between the UK and the rest of the EU and at the moment there are no barriers and checks along it. The House of Commons Northern Ireland Affairs Committee described the border as having “unique political significance due to the history of Ireland and conflict in Northern Ireland.” " |
There is no hard border at Dover. As I said, lorries drive through and don't get their goods cleared until sometimes 10-15 miles up the road, where they are cleared electronically.
Checks should be made on entry to Ireland or Northern Ireland, there is no need for a hard border between the two. It's just more Project Fear, from the EU this time. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Ste wrote: | Yeah yeah yeah, but they can still pull vehicles over at Dover to check who and what is in the vehicle? |
If they can find someone from car park ticketing checking duty to bother....
We have a border force who can't even spot rubber speed boats crossing the 25 miles from France to the Kent coast, in the busiest shipping lane in the world. As many phone in for their free tracksuit, housing and beneifts, from smartphones on arrival in the UK, than get caught before entering. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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This is where common sense enters. There are no checks possible that are as frictionless as absence of checks. "Technical solution" is just another species in the Unicornidae family. |
Do you think what's left of border control and HMC&E stop and check every vehicle? Do they feck, most drive straight through. Only a few suspicious ones will get stopped for checking.
These checks should be done on entry to Ireland or Northern Ireland from other countries, not when crossing between the two.
The countries currently have different taxation, tariffs, EU subsidies and currency, so how can we cope now, but not if we leave the EU? What changes exactly, which forces a hard border the Leavers like you, are so desperate to use for an excuse to stop us leaving? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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mpd72 wrote: | What changes exactly, which forces a hard border the Leavers like you, are so desperate to use for an excuse to stop us leaving? |
This is exactly it, no more, no less, just scrabbling around for another excuse not to leave.
The IRA card is another. Either the IRA are going to kick off again, or they're not. If they are, then this can be an excuse, but they'll find something else if it suits them. You DO NOT GIVE IN TO TERRORISM, or threats thereof. Once you start down that slippery slope, you end up like East Germany in the 70s, a haven for all kinds of looney groups. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip YFPOS wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | What changes exactly, which forces a hard border the Leavers like you, are so desperate to use for an excuse to stop us leaving? |
This is exactly it, no more, no less, just scrabbling around for another excuse not to leave.
The IRA card is another. Either the IRA are going to kick off again, or they're not. If they are, then this can be an excuse, but they'll find something else if it suits them. You DO NOT GIVE IN TO TERRORISM, or threats thereof. Once you start down that slippery slope, you end up like East Germany in the 70s, a haven for all kinds of looney groups. |
the whole thing is retarded, if anything, it'll be a hard border for trucks only, so only the wacko's in the IRA that should be shown up anyway will be upset about it ____________________ '00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30> Yamaha RD350 YPVS F2 > Kawasaki ZZR 600 D1 > Yamaha TZR 250 2MA >Suzuki TL1000R > Yamaha TDR250 > Honda 929 blade > Suzuki SV1000 > Honda H100
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Would any of you want to man a border crossing on the NI ROI border? |
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | Would any of you want to man a border crossing on the NI ROI border? |
I've been across that border many times, years before the GFA and they were tearing down the official checkpoints even then.
It's one of those borders that, if you want to cross it you can, it's virtually impossible to police along it's entire length.
The whole backstop thing is a total red herring, as has already been pointed out, you don't need physical customs checks at border crossings, you can do that at many other points in the movement of goods.
The EU are at pains to point out that different countries have different standards, so let's look at an example of how efficient their checks and balances are - IIRC, we had a big scandal surrounding horse meat in ready meals a few years ago.
Turns out it came from food produced both inside and out of the EU and was being sold across virtually all of the EU, with one of the largest contributors to the contamination being Romania, distributed through France.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 317 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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