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Tony12345 Two Stroke Sniffer
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Posted: 20:38 - 17 Jun 2019 Post subject: ID this starter motor? |
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Hi, can any one help identifying this starter motor? Either looking for a replacement, reconditioning it/or another recon unit, or aftermarket one.
Its off my MZ 500 S S Classic, looking for peace of mind to getting it working properly, atm its a little temperamental but does work, could be one of those things where it will either keep doing it and wont fail, or at some point it will lol. I have tried googling the make and numbers but so far come up with nothing, if any one has suggestions i`d be grateful . |
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Posted: 21:26 - 17 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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Support the local remanufacturing industry in your area.
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Posted: 22:32 - 17 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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Yep!
I've had a couple of Starter motors repaired in the past by my Mechanic, cheaper than a new replacement. ____________________ CBF500 - 2 x Inazuma 250 |
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As said, it doesn't work, and repairing it is unlikely to be a difficult task, so you have nothing to lose by removing it and taking it apart.
If the perma-magnets are broken, which is unlikely, just junk the whole thing.
You will need to clean up the commutator to make all the bare copper shiny again (use wire wool or whatever it takes), remove all the dust from the inside, most likely replace the brushes, and preferably change the bearing.
The brushes are typically just a block of carbon (graphite?) on a bit of flexible matted copper. If you want to do this on the cheap, you can cut off your existing worn brushes at the point where the braided copper is soldered to the backing plate, buy generic car starter motor brushes from an auto parts shop, file them down with a metal file to a size where they will fit your starter motor, and solder the new copper braided ends to your backing plate where the old ones were. Then, knock out your old bearing, make a note of the number and order a new one online. Put it all back together with the new bearing and your clean commutator and backing plate with fresh brushes, and it should be fine. |
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Lots of info on Denso repair kits and part numbers, here...
https://www.repairkitsuk.com/4.html
He'll know if one is available if you ask him.
I've just rebuilt one in my campervan. It was just a Bosch bush set which cost £13. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 17:47 - 18 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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I added a short mp4 on you tube,showing noise of motor, also sometimes although the motor runs it doesnt engage into the engine, a quick into 1st gear and rocking back and forward sometime engages the motor to start.
https://youtu.be/cBj7b_lOvBM |
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Posted: 19:19 - 25 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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Bikes now all sorted, new sprag fitted,. Clutch leaver feels a little heavier, and had to slacken cable right off,. Changes gear nicely. The old one prity much fell apart when it was taken off, surprised it lasted as long as it did lol. Starter motor still makes a nasty noise on turning over, so a recon job be for the winter time . I did get a price for a motor,. A new one was £300 and a used working order one was £150,. I'll see what shop at Peterborough will charge. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 298 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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